tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-41312890866747923782024-03-20T02:01:53.060-07:00Griff's Cybersex BlogI chat with women (and occasionally men) about sex online. Some of this blog is based on those chat sessions. Some about the people in the chat sessions. Some is about other sex related topics. Plus I reserve the right to include whatever else I like.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125truetag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-20707734522868448292013-05-21T05:08:00.000-07:002013-05-21T05:08:25.395-07:00Is "sex tourism" a euphemism for "rape tourism"?Beneath the fold, a guy describes some details of being a sex tourist in India.<br />
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If you are offended by description of sexual activity that is illegal either in India or in your home country, do not look beneath the link. Consider clicking below the fold to be an agreement that you ain't gonna complain about Griff, Your Humble Narrator.<br />
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I will assert the privilege of a journalist reporting on a matter of public policy relevance if you complain about the text below. If you don't like it, take it up with the appropriate authorities. I'm just the messenger.<br />
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<u>The taxi drivers know where to go</u><br />
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Griff: what countries do you go to?<br />Sex Tourist: been to india manily but twice to fillipeans<br />Griff: what kinda women you get in India?<br />Sex Tourist: both young and old but usually young<br />Griff: how does one go about getting the good ones?<br />Sex Tourist: usually taxi drivers have answers and mainly small villages</blockquote>
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<u>Sells the wife for 20 USD, the daughter for 20 USD more</u><br />
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Griff: how much does it cost?<br />Sex Tourist: by north american standards, very cheap, it's just cost to get there<br />Griff: these girls experienced?<br />Griff: they cry?<br />Griff: or they know what to expect?<br />Sex Tourist: man will sell his wife for night for equivelent of 20 dollars<br />Sex Tourist: his daughters for 20 more</blockquote>
<u>Humiliating the family is most satisfying</u><br />
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Sex Tourist: they seem to have been there before<br />Sex Tourist: evern the young<br />Griff: how do the women respond?<br />Sex Tourist: they seem to know what to do and act as if they love the attention, will do anything<br />Sex Tourist: i know they are being forced to it<br />Griff: what's the best part?<br />Sex Tourist: leting me strip them as their family watches<br />Griff: you enjoy humiliating the family, eh?<br />Sex Tourist: yes its most satisfying</blockquote>
<u>"The husband or father will ask permission to masturbate or fuck his wife as they watch"</u><br />
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Griff: what's the best response you've gotten from using a girl in front of her family?<br />Sex Tourist: the husband or father wqill ask permission to masturbate or fuck his wife as they watch<br />Griff: lol<br />Griff: did the bitch cum?<br />Sex Tourist: i always take the wife first so he gets seconds<br />Sex Tourist: the young ones more like poee but wives cum<br />Sex Tourist: will get wife to lick my ass whjile doing her daughter</blockquote>
<u>"I have gone with a friend a few times"</u><br />
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Griff: you spit on them? insult them?<br />Sex Tourist: yes but most don't speak much english<br />Sex Tourist: i slap a lot of brown ass<br />Griff: you go alone or with a bud?<br />Sex Tourist: i have gone with a friend a few times<br />Griff: take pics or video?<br />Griff: or would that draw too much attention?<br />Sex Tourist: no too hard to bring back<br />Griff: you use protection? or you might have some children in India?<br />Sex Tourist: i could be a dad, who knows</blockquote>
<u>I make the whole family kiss my cock before we begin</u><br />
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Griff: are these women and girls attractive?<br />Sex Tourist: indian women fuck great<br />Sex Tourist: most are rather pretty<br />Griff: what do you do to make them feel particularly used?<br />Sex Tourist: the wives usually have big tits and almost black nipples<br />Sex Tourist: i make the whole family strip down to nothing and walk about touching me and each other<br />Sex Tourist: all must kiss my cock before we really begin</blockquote>
<u>A friend got me started</u><br />
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Griff: how long you been doing it?<br />Sex Tourist: for about 10 years<br />Griff: how did you get started?<br />Sex Tourist: a friend mentioned his trip and i wanted to try<br />Griff: what tips you have for guys starting out?<br />Sex Tourist: india is still best as they really will do anything for money<br />Sex Tourist: a child will blow u in street for about 2 dollars<br />Griff: do they worship White people?<br />Sex Tourist: they treat whites with reverence</blockquote>
<u>"Most of us like the family thing and street kids"</u><br />
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Sex Tourist: gangs of kids follow u and beg to serve<br />Griff: do you hang with other guys who are sex tourists while there?<br />Sex Tourist: i meet a few and we sometimes travle in pairs<br />Griff: any of them have any interesting kinks?<br />Sex Tourist: most of us like the family thing and street kids</blockquote>
Usually, I have a smart alec conclusion to add. If you've read this far, draw your own conclusion.<br />
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Also, don't complain that I'm writing about something ugly. If you want to do something about it, do something about it. Don't complain that I'm the problem. Go to India and create some organization that busts cab driver pimps.<br />
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<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-39849849466404545102013-05-16T08:02:00.001-07:002013-05-16T08:02:18.373-07:00for Kayla<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-7781348516279426902013-01-28T08:59:00.001-08:002013-01-28T08:59:55.253-08:00Denial of Service Attack on Erotic Sex Chat (aka Sex Chat Sex Chat)EroticSexChat.com (aka SexChatSexChat.com) has been taken offline by a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack" target="_blank">denial of service (DoS) attack</a>. The operators of Erotic Sex Chat have kept the community updated on a blog, <a href="http://scscchat.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">scsc blog</a>. This specific blog entry is the one that give <a href="http://scscchat.wordpress.com/backup-plans/" target="_blank">backup plans</a>.<br />
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My only significant insight is that I was in a place where law enforcement was weak and terrorism (political violence) happened.<br />
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There was an attack on a night club. The authorities--who were sorta oriented toward politics and political violence--focused on sleuthing which faction perpetrated the attack. When the crime was solved, the perpetrator was...<br />
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While Nash may well be correct that the party that initiated the DoS attack is a disgruntled patron who has the knowledge and capability to launch a DoS attack, I would not rule out rival websites or businesses that sell software that is less susceptible to DoS attacks.<br />
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It's a shitty way to do business, but as Tom Hagen says in the <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/quotes" target="_blank"><i>Godfather</i></a>, "This is business not personal." I can see someone rationalizing, if they can't defend their website, fuck them. The follow on thinking is, I deserve a cut of what they got.<br />
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Has anyone switched to the other websites? Which one do you like?Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-38665230552236849382013-01-19T07:38:00.000-08:002013-01-19T07:39:01.899-08:00setting one's own rules does have a basis in Western philosophy<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
I want to discuss a quote from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange" target="_blank"><i>AClockwork Orange</i></a> by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Burgess" target="_blank">Anthony Burgess</a>.</div>
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In the book (which became <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_%28film%29" target="_blank">a controversial movie</a> written, produced and directed by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kubrick" target="_blank">Stanley Kubrick</a>) the story is
narrated by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_%28A_Clockwork_Orange%29" target="_blank">Alex</a>, a teenager who leads a gang and is basically living
the male fantasy life. He has the respect of his peers, he gets money
from stealing, he gets sex and he has the time to pursue his passion
for music.</div>
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This is what Alex tells the readers
after Alex's “Post-Corrective Adviser” P. R. Deltoid has left.</div>
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But when he’d ookadeeted and I was
making this very strong pot of chai, I grinned to myself over this
veshch that P. R. Deltoid and his droogs worried about. All right, I
do bad, what with crasting and tolchocks and carves with the britva
and the old in-out-in-out, and if I get loveted, well, too bad for
me, O my little brothers, and you can’t run a country with every
chelloveck comporting himself in my manner of the night. So if I get
loveted and it’s three months in this mesto and another six in
that, and the, as P. R. Deltoid so kindly warns, next time, in spite
of the great tenderness of my summers, brothers, it’s the great
unearthly zoo itself, well, I say: “Fair, but a pity, my lords,
because I just cannot bear to be shut in. My endeavour shall be, in
such future as stretches out its snowy and lilywhite arms to me
before the nozh overtakes or the blood spatters its final chorus in
twisted metal and smashed glass on the highroad, to not get loveted
again.” Which is fair speeching. But, brothers, this biting of
their toe-nails over what is the cause of badness is what turns me
into a fine laughing malchick. They don’t go into the cause of
goodness, so why the other shop? If lewdies are good that’s because
they like it, and I wouldn’t ever interfere with their pleasures,
and so of the other shop. And I was patronizing the other shop. More,
badness is of the self, the one, the you or me on our oddy knockies,
and that self is made by old Bog or God and is his great pride and
radosty. But the not-self cannot have the bad, meaning they of the
government and the judges and the schools cannot allow the bad
because they cannot allow the self. And is not our modern history, my
brothers, the story of brave malenky selves fighting these big
machines? I am serious with you, brothers, over this. But what I do I
do because I like to do.
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This speech captures a good amount of
Western philosophy. Yes, the speech is in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadsat" target="_blank">Nadsat</a>, a fictional
dialect. You can look up words in this <a href="http://soomka.com/nadsat.html" target="_blank">glossary/dictionary</a>.</div>
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The speech starts with Alex stating he
is willing to take the consequences for his actions before he's
experienced the consequences. When he experiences the consequences he
finds them much more horrific than he could have imagined.</div>
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Alex then gives a nod to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousseau" target="_blank">Rousseau</a>'s
conception of the “general will”. He accepts society has a
responsibility to make rules against his behavior.</div>
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Alex then plays off <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche" target="_blank">Nietzsche</a>
questioning good and evil and asserting the right to disregard
arbitrary morality.</div>
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The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism" target="_blank">existentialists</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29" target="_blank">objectivists</a>
would acknowledge that Alex is who he is because of the choices he
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And finally Alex swings back to
Rousseau by portraying himself as the natural man struggling with a
society that constrains the individual. Nietzsche could be used to
Alex aspiring to be his own kind of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch" target="_blank">Ubermensch </a>(superman).</div>
Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-81467152305813386072013-01-18T22:15:00.000-08:002013-01-18T22:15:44.644-08:00Should other people live their sex lives to conform to you aesthetic preferences?I am going to quote at length from the Tumblr blog, <a href="http://mybetterworld.tumblr.com/">All Women Should Be Like This</a>, the blog entry is, "<a href="http://mybetterworld.tumblr.com/post/32012885428/my-offensive-blog-3rd-wave-feminism">My Offensive Blog & 3rd Wave Feminism</a>".
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I get hatemail, and it doesn’t surprise me.
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The fact is, that what I write is extremely offensive if taken without the understanding that this is about a certain section of BDSM; that it revolves around the sexual pleasure that some of us take from humiliation, degredation, name-calling, objectification and so on. Without that understanding I come off as an evil rape-apologist, massive mysogynist, women-hater and generally the scum of the earth.<br />
<a name='more'></a>To my understanding the first movement of feminism occured during the
fight for sufferage. This was the first wave. The second wave of
feminism is the kind that occured primarily during the 50’s and 60’s
when women fought not just for the right to vote, but to be accepted as
equals in their abilty to work, think and function in society. This was
typified by the attitude of ‘men and women are the same’. 3rd wave
feminism is what is happeneing right now, and the funny thing is that
sometimes it doesn’t look like feminism at all. That’s why it’s
confusing.</blockquote>
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3rd wave feminism is charactersed by the ability of women to decide
their own role, their own sexual identity and their own place in
society. It’s the ideal that if a woman wants to be a CEO, or the
president, a doctor, lawyer, scientist or whatever - she can be that.
But just as equally, if she wants to be a stereotypical 1950’s
housewife, or a sexual slave, or even a nameless object just used for
fucking, then she can be that too… Most importantly, because both were
choices made by the woman without duress, they are BOTH equally valid
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I was once watching or listening to a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Steinem" target="_blank">Gloria Steinem</a> interview where she made the claim that many if not most women in the sex industry were molested or had their trust violated in a sexual manner.<br />
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And I've chatted with a few of these women. <a href="http://griffscybersexblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/rachel-is-going-to-show-her-therapist.html" target="_blank">Rachel</a> was an extreme case.<br />
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While I can see the point of trying to keep people from being exploited or violated, there are people who get aroused engaging in this behavior.<br />
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Where do they fit into society?<br />
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"Hey, I know (but don't want to acknowledge) you get aroused by extreme degradation. But I want you to take one for Team Girl Power and forgo your preferred sexual practices--stuff I'm not into anyways, so it's not a sacrifice for me--so that we can correct the power imbalance in society. Besides, what you like isn't healthy."</blockquote>
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You're not really free if you can't live your sex life as you choose.<br />
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And you're kinda an asshole if you're telling people how they should have sex to make their existence fit your aesthetic.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-63647758662496717372013-01-18T21:46:00.000-08:002013-01-18T21:46:03.767-08:00fashion fad drives parasite toward extinction<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-13/brazilian-bikini-waxes-make-crab-lice-endangered-species-health.html">Brazilian Bikini Waxes Make Crab Lice Endangered Species</a> by Jason Gale & Shannon Pettypiece (Bloomberg)
Pimping ain't easy, and apparently neither is being a pubic louse in a world where the sexually active don't have pubic hair.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-3493138635680310452013-01-11T09:30:00.001-08:002013-01-19T07:39:33.559-08:00Tao Te Ching verse 13: does it apply to sexual encounters involving humiliation & degradation?<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<b><a href="http://www.wussu.com/laotzu/laotzu13.html" target="_blank">Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 13</a><br /><br />
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Accept disgrace willingly.<br />
Accept misfortune as the human condition.<br />
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What do you mean by "Accept disgrace willingly"?<br />
Accept being unimportant.<br />
Do not be concerned with loss and gain.<br />
This is called "accepting disgrace willingly."<br />
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What do you mean by "Accept misfortune as the human condition"?<br />
Misfortune comes from having a body.<br />
Without a body, how could there be misfortune?<br />
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Surrender yourself humbly; then you can be trusted to care for all things.<br />
Love the world as your own self; then you can truly care for all things.<br />
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(translation by <a href="http://www.wussu.com/laotzu/key.html#gfje">Gia-fu Feng and Jane English</a>)<br />
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Of course, there are other translations. See <a href="http://www.taoism.net/ttc/complete.htm" target="_blank">Derek Lin's translation at Taoism.net</a>. <br />
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It seems like a sexual encounter based on humiliation and degradation can be the fulfillment of<br />
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Accept being unimportant.<br />
Do not be concerned with loss and gain.</blockquote>
When one accepts a sexual encounter with its raw sensory experiences and its more abstract ideas about identity, human relations and intimacy--when one accepts these things without worrying about the outcome, one is experiencing life and reality quite differently than one experiences life and reality when going to work and experiencing the more mundane aspects of life.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-65471725210498550102013-01-11T09:18:00.001-08:002013-01-11T09:18:47.801-08:00heroin user gives her spinI recently chatted with a young woman who used heroin. She gave me this quote which I thought was memorable.<br />
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Whether
you believe it or not, I'm not that desperate. Consider it an
indulgence, even if it is an addiction. I don't treat it like something I
have to have. I've had no choice but to be in control my entire life. I
think I can handle the one thing that makes me feel good from time to
time. In fact, I know I can. <br />
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This was my response:<br />
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<b id="yui_3_7_2_1_1357843116493_21160">Griff: </b>I chatted with a prostitute who did heroin</div>
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<b id="yui_3_7_2_1_1357843116493_21158">Griff: </b>Her mother was a whore</div>
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<b id="yui_3_7_2_1_1357843116493_21156">Griff: </b>and she described how her pimp used heroin</div>
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<b id="yui_3_7_2_1_1357843116493_21154">Griff: </b>When he'd get a new girl he'd tie her to a bed in the basement.</div>
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<b>Griff: </b>He'd have one of the current whores kept her shot up for a week.</div>
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<b>Griff: </b>He'd come down and rape the girl periodically.</div>
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<b>Griff: </b>and after a week, between the heroin and the rapings he had her pretty well under control.</div>
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I wish I saved that chat. The bitch telling me the story ended the chat by saying she was going to kill herself by shooting up. Then she said she was just fucking with me, but she was shooting up. <br />
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Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-32794019329416559512013-01-11T09:09:00.002-08:002013-01-11T09:09:50.574-08:00exploring one's secret sexual personaIn <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_15?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the+dark+garden&sprefix=The+Dark+Garden%2Caps%2C356" target="_blank"><i>The Dark Garden</i></a> by Eden Bradley the love interest, Christian Thorne, lays this line on Rowan Cassidy, the protagonist, right before she agrees (reluctantly) to submit to him for 30 days.<br />
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There can be part of ourselves that are hidden. Hidden beneath layers of what we think we should be or what others expect from us. Digging down and discovering what lies beneath the surface can be freeing.</blockquote>
I think the more correct model of human personalities and identities is that we possess multiple identities that are contradictory, but true at different times. <br />
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While Christian Thorne's line works for seduction purposes, I think Billy Joel's take in "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_%28song%29" target="_blank">The Stranger</a>" is equally valid.<br />
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Once I used to believe I was such a great romancer<br />
Then I came home to a woman I could not recognize<br />
When I pressed her for a reason<br />
She refused to even answer<br />
It was then I felt the stranger kick me right between the eyes</blockquote>
While there is some truth that it's liberating to indulge these alternate personalities, it's also a bunch of other things. <br />
<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-70451877800698232342013-01-03T18:23:00.001-08:002013-01-03T18:23:52.144-08:00Do women want sex less deeper into a relationship?<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Study: The longer a woman is in a relationship, the more her sexual desire decreases. Men reported no such decrease. </blockquote>
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See "<a href="http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/stories/why-women-lose-interest-in-sex" target="_blank">Why women lose interest in sex</a>" by Jennifer Abbasi.<br />
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The term "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death" target="_blank">Lesbian Bed Death</a>" goes back to 1983, so it seems like it might be real.<br />
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I think there's something missing in the understanding of women losing interest in sex as they get deeper into relationships.<br />
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I think many couples have problems around the sex being boring. Boring sex where the guys gets his nut is ok for him, not so good for her.<br />
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The University of Guelph researchers did ask the women if about sexual satisfaction.<br />
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Murray added that the self-reported nature of the study could have also
skewed the results. "It has been theorized that men may be less inclined
to admit that they have low desire as this is considered against <a href="http://www.livescience.com/15695-mancession-recession-shifts-gender-roles.html">male gender norms and masculinity</a>,"
she said. "Thus, it may be that men are not accurately reporting their
level of desire and they may too experience a decrease."</blockquote>
To me it's interesting that the researchers questioned the men self-reporting about desire and not the women self-reporting about satisfaction. Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-24937446511552572182013-01-03T18:06:00.002-08:002013-01-03T18:07:21.949-08:00What should Griff call his Tumblr microblog?Publishing online means having to stay current.<br />
<br />
What I've noticed is there is a vibrant community of people whom I suspect will "get" Griff's Cybersex Blog on Tumblr.<br />
<br />
Being on Blogger (fka Blogspot) hasn't gotten GCB the attention I believe the blog deserves.<br />
<br />
However, I'm not going to abandon Blogger. I'm going to keep this account for text and open a Tumblr account that will be more visual and links to the longer text entries on GCB.<br />
<br />
Any suggestions on a name for the Tumblr account?<br />
<br />
BTW, this <a href="http://blog.compete.com/2011/10/26/tumblr-vs-wordpress-vs-blogger-fight/" target="_blank">Compete Pulse article</a> dated October 26, 2011 shows graphically how Blogger traffic was in decline and Tumblr was in ascendancy.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-79042291670723489002013-01-02T07:14:00.001-08:002013-01-03T18:07:38.275-08:00"I'd like to compete with my mom, see who fucked better"I'm working backwards through saved material. This is from December 28. I met Cindy in the Erotic Sex Chat "Family Fun Room". Cindy wants to fuck a guy who has fucked her mother so she can be compared to her mother.<br />
<br />
By coincidence, I ran into another Asian Cindy a couple days later, but she had a different personality.<br />
<br />
One of the girl's I chat regularly, Bethany, has some issues around her mother.<br />
<a name='more'></a><br />
<br />
<b>The mother</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you looking for your
White father?
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy(“Asian” in screen name):
</b>mmm be my step daddy pls</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>what's your name?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>cindy</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>Cindy, if I'm gonna be
your step daddy, tell me about your mother.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes sir</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>shes [redacted].</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>maybe 5'2 curvy but
slim..not as thick as me...C cup breasts long black hair</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>what's her name?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>Linda</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>how many different guys
have had their dicks in your and your mom?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>Cindy?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i dont know about my mom</div>
</blockquote>
<b>Cindy lost her virginity and then dumped the guy for being boring a month later</b><br />
(Took care of business, time to move on. PS some college boys suck as sex.) <br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>ive had 2 guys</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>how old are you, Cindy?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>[redacted] sir</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>college bitch?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes daddy</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you home on break?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>where's home? where's
school?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>[redacted]...i go to
[redacted]</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you've only had two guys,
eh? both in 2012?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>no 1 last year</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>thats when i lost my
virginity</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>he was a nice kid about
your age? or older?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>my bf at the time</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>my age</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>how long were you
together after he popped your cherry?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>1 month</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>did he dump you?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>nooo lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i dumped him :)</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>how did you cut him
loose?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i just told him we should
end it lol...the relationship was getting boring</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff screens Cindy's kinks </b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you are going to to make
a new year's resolution to be more sexually adventurous in 2013,
aren't you?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>well not necessarily a
new years resolution, but i do wanna try more things lol...thats why
im on here i guess</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you want to have sex with
older, more experienced men, don't you?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>lol ya maybe</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you into guys dominating
you sexually?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes sir</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>when you watch porn? when
you read erotica? what sorta stuff you tend to be interested in?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i dont know lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i like seeing stuff ive
never seen before</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>like what?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>lol and seeing if it
turns me on</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>is there a site you go
back to repeatedly?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>literotica</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>which section of
Literotica?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>usually taboo</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>rape?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>anything i like trying
new things lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>bestiality?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>incest?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you have a hard time
admitting what arouses you, don't you?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>no, i like all of it lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you enjoy humiliation and
degradation of women?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you into racial play?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>ya</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy gets introduced to Griff's Cybersex Blog</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you should know I
specialize in humiliation and degradation</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>I have examples of my
chat sessions on my blog, "Griff's Cybersex Blog"</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>click on "View
profile"</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>hehe wow</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you've got it open?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yea lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i dont think u could
break me like that lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you're more normal, eh?</div>
</blockquote>
<b>Cindy wants Griff to fuck her mother </b><br />
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<br /></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>so are you [redacted]</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>lol wow u know the terms
im impressed</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>lol. How much [redacted]
you know?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>none lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>but my mom told me that
hehe</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>im pretty whitewashed</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>how old is your mother?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>hmm let me see</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>liike 42?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>i think lol or 41</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>im a bad daughter -_-</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you think it would be hot
for me to fuck her and then tell you about it while fucking you?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>a lil yea...id like to
compete with my mom haha see who fucked better</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you ever admitted that
before?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>lol of course not</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>you want to be my yellow
bitch in [redacted], eh?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes daddy</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff fails to get the pic </b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>get a marker</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>like a pen marker?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>yes</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>ok i have one</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>what color is it?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>black</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>remove your top and write
"Fucks > Mom" on your tits</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>hehe\</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>ok</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>lol its hard to write
back wards</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>yeah, that's why I tried
to make it short</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>lol ok i got it</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>kinda slopppy lol but its
there</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>how are you feeling?</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>kind of naughty lol</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>snap a pic. Tits, no
face.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Griff: </b>snap a good pic</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>yes daddie</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b>Cindy: </b>btw where should i send
it?</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<br /></div>
Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-24613772153986899232012-12-31T07:33:00.000-08:002012-12-31T07:33:52.757-08:00Happy New Year 2013!As I said earlier, I'm going to be writing more new entries for Griff's Cybersex Blog in 2013.<br />
<br />
To hold up your end of the bargain, you need to leave comments.<br />
<br />
Also, I'm going to start posting when I'm going to be on Erotic Sex Chat.<br />
<br />
I will be on Wednesday 3:30-4:15 PM Central (6:30 AM in Japan, 9:30 PM UK) and 9:15-10:00 PM (12:15 PM in Japan, 3:15 AM UK).Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-63366654895325799612012-12-30T21:27:00.002-08:002012-12-31T07:34:29.612-08:00"I felt worse than pathetic, and at the same time, I kept wanting to talk to you, Griff"Yesterday I had a chat with Susie, who had given me a sweet tit pic back in the summer of 2012.<br />
<br />
I'll post the earlier chats later, if there are requests in the comments.<br />
<br />
Susie is dating an older guy, 34 years old. It's sorta working, except that he yells at her in public.<br />
<a name='more'></a><br />
<div style="margin-bottom: 0.2in; text-decoration: none;">
<b>The
opening.</b> </div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you
avoiding me?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : hello?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: hey. Griff here. We met on
Erotic Sex Chat. You remember me, right?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how are you? how were your
holidays?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie:they were ok im ok [if getting creepy hugs from your relatives is ok, see below]</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>I have a 34 y/o boyfriend</b></div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<br /></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you still throwing yourself
at men and getting used?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : i have a boyfriend</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: congrats?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
your age? older?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : hes older</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how long you been with him?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : 2 months</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how much older?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: he's 34</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Griff probes for weaknesses in
the relationship</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: is he good to you? or are you
pretty much his fuck toy?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : we do have sex a lot, but we
go out too</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: does he give a shit about the
real you? or haven't you opened up to him?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : what do you mean does he
give a shit?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you are a young woman with
some reasonably heavy issues, aren't you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : yea, but do you mean like he
wants to help? or like he doesn't mind?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: I'm not saying he needs to
help or rescue you.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
is he interested in the person
behind the tits and pussy?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: have you revealed any of your
feelings about your father? have you told him how you were raped?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : he knows i was raped, not
how</div>
</blockquote>
<i>Griff's relationship advice:</i> if your bitch was raped, you better know the story and get control of her thoughts and the story she tells herself, or it will mess up the relationship. If she tells you she was raped, you gotta listen to the full story.<br />
<br />
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Using the earlier chat to
establish dominance</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how did you feel after our
chat?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie : not fantastic</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: go on</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
which parts stand out for you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: it was a long time ago, i
cant remember
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i know how you made me feel</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i know i read through your blog
afterwards
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i'm not even sure why</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i think i wanted to see other fucked
up stories</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: did you feel like just
another pathetic young woman?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i think i wanted to see other
fucked up stories</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i felt worse than pathetic</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and at the same time i kept wanting
to talk to u</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>I did go back to Erotic Sex
Chat [to look for you]”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: was it comforting to know
other women made similar mistakes?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: a little</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: I thought I sent you an email
after we chatted because I knew I did fuck you up pretty intensely</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
you didn't respond, so I figured you
decided to avoid me</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: its easy to avoid you when
your just an email</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
well easier</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: lol</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
you fantasized about me when you
masturbated, didn't you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i did go back to
eroticsexchat</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
but i never saw you</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>The “raped + dumped” picture</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: did you keep the pic you took
for me?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: do you look at it
periodically?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: what does it make you think
of?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: it makes me think about a lot
of things
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: such as...</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
top three?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: its better to have a man who
tells me what to do and wants me</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: and?</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Humiliation = arousal</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i feel humiliated when i look
at it</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: does humiliation = arousal
for you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: explain the first point</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: which?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: better to have a man</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
who tells me what to do and wants me</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: even tho the picture is
humiliating and makes me remember everything we talked about, stuff i
haven't really talked about since</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: which men have made you feel
wanted? unwanted?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: it also makes me crave more,
and want to talk to you</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
you made me feel wanted a little</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
my boyfriend does too, but only
recently</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>I'm scared that I'm that easy
to own, that you can just talk to me for an hour and I want to give
myself to you”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: more than any man ever has...
I owned you, eh?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: its really scary
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you're scared of what you
will do, what you will give up, eh?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: im scared that im that easy
to own, that you can just talk to me for an hour and i want to give
myself to you</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you respect me, in part,
because of what I've done to other bitches like you. Eh?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Susie wants to watch Griff break
a bitch</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you want to watch me
humiliate another bitch? break her?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: could i do that?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: I would like to arrange it</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i would like that</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: good</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
you're [location information
redacted], right?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie:
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
not that [location information
redacted]</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: do you have an excuse for a
trip to [redacted]?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i was just there</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: lol</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
really? you have a good time?</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>My cousin and uncle are
creeps”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: not really my cousin and
uncle are creeps</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how so?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
they try to have sex with you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: they just stare and hug too
long</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: they let you know they want
it, but aren't assertive or confident to come out and ask for it, eh?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yea</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>Griff, can i please be your
bitch?”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you want to be my bitch
again, don't you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: ask for it</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: griff can i please be your
bitch</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: what do you want from being
my bitch?</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Griff establishes the limits</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
how completely you want to play?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
how is it going to fit into your
situation with your 34 y/o bf?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i dont want to leave him</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: ok</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
I'm not going to ask you to leave
him</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
what else?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i don't want him to find out</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: ok</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
I'm not going to leave you marked so
he can find out</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>You were inside my head; you
predicted how I felt”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: what do you want from the
experience? as opposed to what do you want to avoid?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i want to feel owned like i
did that day we talked</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: what made you feel owned?
that I crushed you spirit?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
made you feel worthless? helpless?
pathetic?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and that u were inside my head</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: What do you mean by saying I
was in your head?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: you predicted how i felt</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>My boyfriend gets really
jealous”</b></div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
</div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: have you talked to your bf
about the trip?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: u mean about my uncle and
cousin?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: no, he gets really jealous</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: lol</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
how do you feel about him getting
jealous?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: sometimes its scary, i wish
he didnt</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: does it make you want to
cheat?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: no, it makes me afraid of
cheating</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: like he'll get violent?</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>The yelling</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: but its his yelling</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
he yells at me</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: he yells at you? does he not
have control when he gets angry?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: not really</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
its the worst when he does it in
public</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: he yells at you and
humiliates you in public?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: its just yelling</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
he only calls me names at home
usually</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and its not all the time</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
or for very long</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Griff gives relationship advice</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: right. I once read a book
about relationships that had a chapter about "bad news"
relationship flags.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
the author was a relationship
counselor</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and his position was that almost any
relationship can be saved, if people want it to work</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
but he had 11 rules, flags for
relationships being "bad news" and one should break up
immediately.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
one, was puts you down in front of
your friends</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
two, if someone tries to control you
in small ways.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
they weren't the first two on the
list</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
but they were two items.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
I don't know if these apply in your
case, but I would like to offer a suggestion.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
I think you should tell him that
yelling at you in public is unacceptable.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
He is free to be angry, upset or
feel any other emotion.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
He is free to convey to you in an
appropriate and intimate way he's feeling angry, upset or anything
else.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
And in private, he's free to yell at
you, provided it's reasonable and appropriate</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
but yelling at you in public is
inappropriate.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
It feels humiliating on your end.
And it makes him seem like he's not the kind of man able to control
his temper and outbursts.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
And unless he's diagnosed with
Tourettes, it's something you expect men to be able to do.</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Susie makes excuses for bf's bad
behavior</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: That sound about right to
you, Susie?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i have said it to him, he
says hes not yelling at me hes yelling about something else in my
direction</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and its really not all the time</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: sigh, of course it's not all
the time.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: can we stop talking about him</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: the top two rules were about
lying.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: in the book?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: "Lied about something,
promised not to lie about that again and then lied about it again."</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i've only been with him for 2
months</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how many times has the
yelling thing happened in those two months?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: idk, like 5 times in public</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: Susie.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: and each time he gives the
excuse it's not you he's yelling at, but something beyond you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: no that was just the one time
when i talked to him about it</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: I'm going to give him the
benefit of the doubt.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
he was trying to save face.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: ok</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Susie is hurting</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: has he yelled at you in
public again since you talked to him?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
really please can we stop talking
about it</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: yes. You're hurting, aren't
you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: Do you want to tell me what
hurts?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: no</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: do you want me to pull it out
of you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: no please</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>How come you didn't put me on
the blog?”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: what do you want to say to
me? ask me? chat about?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: how come you didn't put me on
the blog?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: It was pretty intense. I
wanted to chat with you again before I posted it.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
[further explanation redacted]</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yea, that makes sense</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i believe you</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
its obvious</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you want to be mine, don't
you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yes</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
its your [redacted] that is so
appealing i think</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>I crave the nasty and
degrading”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: any guy can be mostly decent
and I have my flaws.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: like you get off on
destroying women</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: it's the ability to be nasty
and degrading during a sexual encounter</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and then be decent also</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i crave the nasty and
degrading</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Sailor gangbang planned</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you'd let me pimp you to a
group of sailors for a gangbang, wouldn't you?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: lol, probably</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i am deathly afraid of aids tho,
that is the one thing that keeps me from begging homeless guys for
sex</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: the cool thing about sailors
is they all get tested for HIV when they join</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: really?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: if they got admitted to the
Navy, they didn't have HIV</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: cool</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
ok, and now i have nothing holding
me back from a sailor gangbang</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i woke up this morning dreaming
about being gangbanged</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
<b>Susie's father</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how are things with your
father?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i stopped really seeing him</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: is that a good thing?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i miss him</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: or is it "that's what
works for you at this time"</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i guess so</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: how do you want things to be
with your father?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: its why i was in [redacted]
for christmas</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you were avoiding your
father?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: yea</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>I never picture myself having
sex that isn't in some way degrading”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: do you ever have a sexual
encounter with a woman that doesn't include degradation</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
how often?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you picture yourself doing
degradation occasionally but not every time you have sex, eh?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: honestly no, i never picture
myself having sex that isn't in some way degrading</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: look. I'm a horndog. I test a
woman's boundaries and it she's not ready to go to domination and the
like, I just fuck.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: makes sense</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: you need a man who is willing
to work intensely at degrading you, eh?</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: not always intensely</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: lol</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: sometimes just fucking me
doggy style works</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
“<b>I don't envy guys”</b></div>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: I mean he's got to work
intensely at
</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: i know</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: knowing what pushes your
buttons</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
and he's got to plan in advance some</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: ahh</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i dont envy guys</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
i like it because it lets me give up
a lot of control</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: it's work to be on one's game
for the same woman repeatedly</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
you go to work</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: thnks</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: I know I own you now.</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Susie: thank you, bye griff</div>
<div style="text-decoration: none;">
Griff: bye, susie</div>
</blockquote>
My two cents is that the relationship with the 34 y/o is doomed and Susie kinda knows it.<br />
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<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-80975060170148054312012-12-30T09:57:00.001-08:002012-12-30T09:57:33.903-08:00"Griff, please post my picture"Back in May, 2012, I chatted with this married bitch, Jenny. Met her on Erotic Sex Chat, of course.<br />
<br />
I probably have the chat transcript saved, but I'm not sure where.<br />
<br />
Jenny's basic story is she's married to a reasonably well-to-do guy. He sells foreign/luxury cars in one of those countries where the poor are very poor and the rich have lots of money. She likes fucking around on him, especially with foreign guys. IIRC, one of the guys sent her back to her husband with cum smeared on Jenny's face and her husband didn't notice.<br />
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Recently Jenny has taken to begging me to put her picture on the blog.<br />
<a name='more'></a>Christmas day she sent an email with a pic attached:<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div>
<span>hi <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1356885145_0">griff</span> please put me on ur blog</span></div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;">
<span>im ur pinay whore</span></div>
</blockquote>
Nine and a half hours later she sent a follow-up email<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>did u get my pic please replay sir </span></blockquote>
<span> After the second email I responded:</span><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>How are things with your husband?</span></blockquote>
<span> Jenny</span> responded:<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>boring hope we can talk i hope u can post me on ur blog please</span></blockquote>
<span> I told her to:</span><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
write "for Griff" on your tits<br /><br />Or shoot a few pics, including one where you are holding a sign "Griff, please put me on the blog"</blockquote>
<br />
<div>
<span>I don't want to put some bitch on the blog who hasn't given me permission. What if Jenny was actually Jenny's ex bf trying to humiliate her? There are better sites to do that on. That is they get more traffic.</span></div>
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<span>Jenny responded:</span><br /><blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>i dont hav cam sir i only get pics wen so guy fucks me with cam... :( please put me on ur blog please sir</span></blockquote>
Then she sent me a series of emails:<br />
<br />
Dec 27, 8:46 AM<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>please put me in ur blog sir im ur filipina whore </span> </blockquote>
Dec 27, 1:13 PM<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>hope u can put me on ur blog soon</span> </blockquote>
Dec 27, 1:16 PM<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<div>
<span>wish we can talk wish i can see myself on ur blogs </span></div>
</blockquote>
Dec 28, 11:01 PM she sent three more pics.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span>griff please pleasea put me on ur blog </span> </blockquote>
Then I actually chatted with the bitch. She said she gets a certain number of her hook-ups online, but hadn't heard of Craigslist. She was pretty sure they didn't have it in her open-sewage-drainage-ditch country. <br />
<br />
Low and behold, Griff found Craiglist for not just her country, but her city.<br />
<br />
I told Jenny to post an advert on C/L looking for someone with a camera. I told her to email me with a link to the advert when it's up.<br />
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We'll see.<br />
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<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-2320513475328588342012-12-30T08:23:00.000-08:002012-12-30T08:23:09.179-08:00blog more, chat lessWriters write. Bloggers blog.<br />
<br />
In the new year, I'm going to be blogging more and chatting less.<br />
<br />
I do have significant saved material to dip into.<br />
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If you are a fan of the blog, leave comments. And subscribe to the blog.<br />
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Feel free to ask questions.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-65667573790896199612012-05-15T17:42:00.000-07:002012-05-15T17:42:21.509-07:00Rachel is going to show her therapist the chat transcriptI had an interesting chat with Rachel. I told her to chat the transcript with her therapist. And she has an appointment on Thursday. So I've got to get it posted promptly.<br />
<br />
Rachel's therapist recommend she chat online to get more comfortable dealing with men. Rachel has such low self esteem--she was chatting under "uglycunt20"--I had to ask the "Have you been molested?" question.<br />
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Another Griff-gets-it-right moment. It was her step dad.<br />
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The chat is more pathetic than hot. But I got pics of the cunt, so I figured I'd let you see her in her full pathos.<br />
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For the comments: What should be done to guys like Rachel's step dad? And: what advice would you give Rachel? <br />
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<b>What do ugly girls do in theater? </b><br />
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Griff: you've had guys tell you that you are unattractive?<br />Rachel: yea<br />Rachel: first in high school<br />Rachel: actually probably a little before but i didnt care so much<br />Griff: which group did you hang with in hs?<br />Rachel: theater<br />Griff: you work stage crew?<br />Rachel: yea<br />Rachel: painting and costumes</blockquote>
<b>"One told me I was lucky he let me touch his cock at all and that I should beg for it"</b><br />
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Griff: and which guys said you were ugly? how did they say it?<br />Rachel: guys would be hanging out in groups and theyd call out to girls stuf like hey sexy<br />Rachel: but they always called out to me stuff like hey ugly<br />Rachel: you wish id let u suck my cock<br />Griff: did you ever give head to these guys later?<br />Rachel: i did for two of them<br />Griff: how did it feel giving head to guys who thought you were ugly?<br />Rachel: i thought it would be nice, like they wanted me<br />Rachel: but really i just felt like trash<br />Griff: they insult you afterwards?<br />Rachel: and during<br />Rachel: one told me i was lucky he let me touch his cock at all and that i should beg for it<br />Griff: did you beg?<br />Rachel: i just said please can i suck your cock, it was really hard to say, i didnt say anything else</blockquote>
<b>"Roger put a paper bag over my head and fucked me"</b><br />
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Griff: you still got self esteem issues?<br />Griff: guys still use you?<br />Griff: Rachel?<br />Rachel: yea obviously i still have self esteem issues<br />Rachel: i wish i was better looking<br />Griff: where you live?<br />Rachel: [redacted]<br />Griff: what's the worst a guy has made you feel?<br />Rachel: this guy put a paper bag over my head and fucked me<br />Griff: lol<br />Griff: how old were you?<br />Rachel: 18<br />Griff: where did you know him from?<br />Rachel: school<br />Griff: how did things start?<br />Rachel: with that guy?<br />Griff: yes<br />Rachel: he lived in my building<br />Griff: he know you were easy?<br />Rachel: idk<br />Griff: how old was he? what was his name?<br />Rachel: idk, he was 20 or 21<br />Rachel: Roger<br />Griff: did you like him?<br />Rachel: yea i did<br />Rachel: i thought he was funny and cute<br />Rachel: and i thought he definitely wouldnt be into me<br />Griff: so he noticed you looking at him? trying to talk to him?<br />Rachel: no we were at the same party<br />Griff: ok<br />Rachel: and we both left pretty late<br />Rachel: and he told me to come to his place</blockquote>
<b>"He actually groaned and stopped what he was doing when he saw me naked"</b><br />
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Griff: did he know guys who had used you for sex?<br />Rachel: he probably knew at least one guy<br />Rachel: just because they were in similar groups<br />Griff: did you smile when he said go to his place?<br />Rachel: yea why?<br />Griff: lol<br />Griff: did you start before getting inside?<br />Rachel: what?<br />Griff: kissing? grabbing? petting?<br />Rachel: no, not really, he squeezed my butt before we got it<br />Griff: what happened inside his flat?<br />Rachel: he closed the door and started really fast, he practically ripped my clothes off<br />Griff: how did that make you feel?<br />Rachel: excited<br />Griff: did you think you were finally going to have sex with a guy who liked you and wanted you?<br />Rachel: and nervous because he was going to see my whole body<br />Griff: are you scarred?<br />Rachel: like do i have scars<br />Griff: what is noteworthy about your naked body?<br />Griff: yes<br />Rachel: my nipples are terrible looking<br />Griff: how is the naked version different than what guys would expect?<br />Rachel: i have barely any tits<br />Rachel: at all<br />Griff: ok<br />Griff: how did he react?<br />Rachel: he actually groaned and stopped what he was doing<br />Rachel: i could see he looked disgusted<br />Griff: did you feel ugly?<br />Rachel: yes</blockquote>
<b>"He told me to turn around and he just put [the paper bag] on my head"</b><br />
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Griff: what happened next?<br />Rachel: i tried to hide my chest, by bending over<br />Griff: ok. and?<br />Griff: what did he say? do?<br />Rachel: thats when he got the paper bag<br />Griff: what did he say?<br />Rachel: he said he was getting something that would help<br />Griff: lol<br />Rachel: i heard him cutting up the bag<br />Rachel: he cut eye and mouth holes<br />Griff: did you see what he was doing?<br />Rachel: no<br />Rachel: he was in the kitchen<br />Griff: and he brought it out? how did he present it?<br />Rachel: he told me to turn around and he just put it on my head<br />Griff: did you realize before he put it on where he was going?<br />Rachel: he didnt wait or anything he just pushed his cock through the mouth hole in my mouth<br />Rachel: i think i did<br />Griff: did you protest? object?<br />Rachel: i didnt really have time<br />Rachel: and i dont know if i would have if i did<br />Griff: you wouldn't have<br />Rachel: maybe</blockquote>
<b>Stepdad molested starting at age 8</b><br />
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Griff: were you molested?<br />Griff: as a child...<br />Griff: you were, weren't you?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: who did it?<br />Rachel: my stepdad<br />Griff: how old were you when it started?<br />Rachel: 8<br />Griff: how long did it last?<br />Rachel: 2 years<br />Griff: did your mom split with him?<br />Rachel: no<br />Rachel: but dad took me<br />Griff: how was your father? was he a decent dad?<br />Rachel: yea he was good, just always busy<br />Griff: did he know you'd been molested?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Rachel: i did tell him too much<br />Griff: did your step father get prosecuted? have to pay extra child support?<br />Rachel: but i begged him to stay<br />Rachel: no he didnt get prosecuted<br />Griff: who did you tell too much?<br />Rachel: i mean i didnt tell me dad that he touched me<br />Rachel: i just begged my dad to take me<br />Rachel: and we had a conversation last year where he asked me if id been molested<br />Rachel: cause hed always suspected it<br />Griff: have you sought help?<br />Rachel: yea</blockquote>
<b>"My therapist sent me to you, Griff"</b><br />
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Rachel: the first therapist i saw didnt help but i see one now that helps<br />Griff: does s/he know you come online to chat about sex?<br />Rachel: yes actually she suggested it<br />Griff: what did she want you to get from the experience?<br />Rachel: to grow more comfortable with men</blockquote>
<b>Griff gets the pics</b><br />
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Griff: get a marker<br />Griff: let me know when you have it<br />Rachel: i have one<br />Griff: take your top off<br />Rachel: ok<br />Griff: write "my therapy" across your tits/chest<br />Rachel: ok<br />Griff: you marked?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: how you feeling?<br />Griff: Rachel?<br />Rachel: im here sorry<br />Griff: you upset? crying? aroused?<br />Rachel: im crying and aroused<br />Rachel: i drew the ys backwards<br />Griff: you want to be my bitch?<br />Rachel: yes sir<br />Griff: say, "Griff, make me one of your bitches"<br />Rachel: Griff, make me one of your bitches<br />Griff: you sure?<br />Rachel: yes please<br />Griff: get a camera and photograph yourself. Leave you face out.<br />Rachel: dressed or naked?<br />Griff: naked<br />Rachel: ok<br />Rachel: ok<br />Rachel: im done<br />Griff: now show them to me<br />Rachel: http://tinypic.com/r/2a98dg5/6<br />Rachel: http://tinypic.com/r/2wh2xdk/6<br />Griff: could you get it right side up?<br />Rachel: sry, i dont know how<br />Griff: that's ok<br />Griff: got any more?<br />Rachel: no<br />Griff: how you feeling?<br />Rachel: idk<br />Rachel: upset<br />Griff: why?<br />Rachel: i just wish i was somone different</blockquote>
<b>"I cried under the bag"</b><br />
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Griff: do I remind you of guys who have used you in the past?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: which ones?<br />Rachel: you remind me of roger<br />Griff: how did he get rid of you after sex?<br />Rachel: told me to leave<br />Griff: did you cry?<br />Rachel: i cried under the bag<br />Griff: the whole time he was fucking you?<br />Rachel: i think i stopped after a little bit but i felt like crying the whole time<br />Griff: anything else I should know about that encounter?<br />Rachel: he fucked my ass not my pussy<br />Rachel: he didnt touch my pussy</blockquote>
<b>"He said i looked prettier with the bag and i should wear it all the time"</b><br />
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Griff: did he talk as he fucked you?<br />Rachel: yea<br />Griff: what did he say?<br />Rachel: he said differnet thing<br />Griff: go ahead and tell me<br />Rachel: when he fucked my butt he said it was the best blowjob hed ever gotten<br />Griff: how did that make you feel?<br />Griff: what else did he say?<br />Rachel: i was trying hard not to listen<br />Rachel: and i was focused on relaxing my butt<br />Griff: he said hateful things didn't he?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: what were they?<br />Rachel: he told me to bark like the bitch i was<br />Griff: did you?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: what else did he say?<br />Rachel: he said i looked prettier with the bag and i should wear it all the time<br />Griff: go on<br />Griff: what else?<br />Rachel: he said he was lasted longer cause i was so ugly<br />Rachel: he laughed and said that it was the silver lining<br />Griff: did your body tremble as he degraded you?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: did he fuck you again later?<br />Rachel: he fucked me a few more times<br />Griff: did he have to flatter you? get you gifts? make promises?<br />Rachel: no<br />Rachel: he just texted me to go to his place</blockquote>
<b>"Please can I be on your blog, Griff"</b><br />
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Griff: Rachel, you get off on being degraded, don't you?<br />Rachel: yea<br />Griff: you want me, don't you?<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: it would be an honor for you to put you on my blog, wouldn't it?<br />Rachel: yes it wuld<br />Griff: ask for it<br />Rachel: please can i be on your blog Griff<br />Griff: I will put you on, but you have to do something for me<br />Rachel: what?<br />Griff: will you do it?<br />Rachel: yes</blockquote>
<b>"Show this chat to your therapist"</b><br />
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Griff: I want you to show it to your therapist<br />Griff: and after you discuss it with her<br />Griff: I want you to post in the comments what she says to you about it<br />Griff: what's your therapists name?<br />Rachel: Selma<br />Griff: how old is Selma?<br />Rachel: 40s<br />Griff: you ever fantasized about her holding you? having sex with you?<br />Rachel: ive never fantasized about a woman<br />Griff: ok</blockquote>
<b>"Am I ugly?"</b><br />
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Griff: anything you want to say? ask?<br />Rachel: to you?<br />Griff: yes<br />Rachel: am i ugly?<br />Griff: I haven't see your face.<br />Griff: There are things about your tits to mock and criticize. I actually like your hips and legs.<br />Griff: You are a wreck emotionally.<br />Rachel: ok<br />Griff: just being honest<br />Rachel: i know</blockquote>
<b>Is the therapist coming to the blog?</b><br />
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Griff: when's your next therapy session?<br />Rachel: thursday<br />Griff: guess I better get this posted.<br />Griff: should I tell Selma I want her to be on my blog too?<br />Rachel: she wuldnt<br />Griff: I suppose it would be unprofessional<br />Rachel: yes<br />Griff: did you masturbate as we chatted?<br />Rachel: yes but i never came<br />Griff: I could own you, couldn't I?<br />Rachel: if u wanted u could<br />Griff: anything else?<br />Rachel: i have nothing else</blockquote>
<b>Say "Griff, make me one of your bitches" three times every time you masturbate</b><br />
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Griff: think of me when you masturbate<br />Rachel: i will<br />Griff: until you find a man that wants you, say "Griff, make me one of your bitches" three times every time you masturbate<br />Rachel: i will Griff<br />Griff: good bitch<br />Rachel: thank u</blockquote>
<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-13132234908518601182012-05-10T22:18:00.000-07:002012-05-10T22:18:04.014-07:00Jasmine has been idealizing her HS friend's dad who fucked her. Griff sets her straight.Jasmine thought she had life all figured out. She is one of those young women who makes sex work for her. She has sex and doesn't get attached. She's in control. She manipulates guys.<br />
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But she did have one true love. In high school she fucked her best friend's father. She was kinda living there because Jasmine's mother had died and her father kinda checked out.<br />
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But I showed Jasmine the truth. Darren used her. Darren used Jasmine to rid himself of his wife and daughter. And then he got rid of Jasmine too.<br />
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Yeah, I got Jasmine to cry and then she logged out. Another success for Griff. <br />
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To set it up, I had been bantering in the Family Fun Room on SexChatSexChat.com, aka EroticSexChat.com. I wasn't hitting on "Sultty Redhead Jasmine". But I was being the alpha male in the room, although Disturbed Daddy was there also. And he's good too.<br />
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Jasmine said enough to me that I made my move. The transcript is below. Before I got Jasmine in tears she really wanted to be on Griff's Cybersex Blog.<br />
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<b>Finals has Jasmine looking for a distraction online</b><br />
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Griff: hey, there<br />Jasmine: Phew, just turned on pm's in the nick of time<br />Griff: so, what got you to come looking for this site?<br />Griff: chatting I mean<br />Jasmine: its exam season, and I am stressed to the hilt<br />Griff: makes sense<br />Jasmine: oh chatting, I am a very social person but most of my friends have left for home leaving me alone for the most</blockquote>
<b>"If I want an emotional connection I can make friends" </b><br />
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Griff: what's your dating and sexual history like?<br />Griff: how would you describe it?<br />Jasmine: dating history, I don't really have a dating history, I was never interested in being tied to one person, figured if I want an emotional connection I can make friends<br />Griff: ok<br />Jasmine: my sexual history, well my first screen name was 'slutty'<br />Griff: how many guy you sucked? fucked? had in your pussy?<br />Jasmine: ermm, maybe 30-something guys </blockquote>
Next time I hear a woman claim she doesn't need a relationship, I'll start trying to figure out her issues. It's a BS line.<br />
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<b>"Darren was one of my highschool friend's dads"</b><br />
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Griff: who was the oldest?<br />Jasmine: ermm, 42, but that was awhile ago<br />Griff: how did you know him? who was he?<br />Jasmine: he was one of my highschool friends dads<br />Griff: did you seduce him? he come on to you?<br />Jasmine: it was mutual, I teased him a little, winked, blew kisses, stayed over often<br />Jasmine: he always made excuses to come check on me and Janet (his daughter) even when his wife was around</blockquote>
<b>"I left him a note in his underwear drawer" </b><br />
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Griff: did Janet suspect?<br />Jasmine: I think she thought it was weird, but she was my friend so I was careful, I think he thought of it as mixed signals<br />Griff: what do you mean "mixed signals"?<br />Jasmine: well there were times when I teased him like i said above, but as well I didn't want to upset Janet so I didn't do anything when he winked at me<br />Griff: ah<br />Griff: were you alone with him in the house when you first hooked up?<br />Jasmine: No, I thought that was part of the fun<br />Jasmine: One day after school I went to Janet's, nothing out of the ordinary, about two hours later I got up and said I needed the bathroom (as you Americans say haha), what I did is I sunk into his bedroom and left a note for him in his underwear draw, I pushed it deep to his wife wouldn't find it by accident though I knew it was risky</blockquote>
The underwear drawer note is a slick move. Hadn't heard of it before. BTW, if any of you girls are curious how to seduce a teacher, ask in the comments. I've got a trick for that. <br />
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<b>"It was just a simple note [that kinda screwed up multiple lives...]"</b><br />
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Griff: what did the note say?<br />Jasmine: "I know you've been watching, its ok, I like it, if you want me give me a message next time, I'll be waiting"<br />Jasmine: was just a simple note<br />Jasmine: I knew I would never manage to get him alone otherwise<br />Griff: how long before he responded?<br />Griff: how did he respond?<br />Griff: did you sign it?<br />Jasmine: Yeah I signed it, I kissed it as well to make a lipstick mark<br />Jasmine: he responded two days after with what was basically a lover letter, not a note</blockquote>
<b>"I did feel like a bit of a home wrecker though"</b><br />
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Griff: do you still have the love letter?<br />Jasmine: Yes I do<br />Griff: how long is it?<br />Jasmine: two and a half pages<br />Jasmine: both sides<br />Griff: lol<br />Griff: how did it make you feel?<br />Jasmine: I was overjoyed that he felt enough for me to detail it like he did<br />Jasmine: I did feel like a bit of a home wrecker though</blockquote>
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Foreshadowing...<br /><br />
<b>"I read Darren's letter often" </b><br />
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Griff: do you still read the note periodically?<br />Jasmine: I read it often<br />Griff: what are your favorite lines from it?<br />Jasmine: was one of the things I brought with me to school<br />
Griff: get it out<br />
Jasmine: its in a lock box, under a pile of clothes</blockquote>
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Griff: what else do you keep in it besides the letter?<br />Jasmine: pictures of me and my friends, my first and subsequently last boyfriend, my mothers key chain, a letter of support from my dad and other memories of my mom<br />Griff: ok<br />Jasmine: just bits and pieces I wanted to hang on to, memories from friends and stuff</blockquote>
Note the dead mother. She's gonna be important later. <br />
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<b>Darren: "I love you as though you were my daughter, more even, I love you more than my wife"</b><br />
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Griff: ok. Got the letter?<br />Jasmine: Yes, I have it out<br />Griff: how's he start?<br />Jasmine: shall I quote it?<br />Griff: yes<br />Jasmine: ok, his opening line is my favorite from the letter "Yes Jasmine, I want you, I love you as though you were my daughter, more even, I love you more than my wife"</blockquote>
Once a girl is in the frame of mind where she wants to be seduced, just start slinging the shit. It won't occur to her that you hate your wife and have been scheming to get rid of her. She'll want to think she's the inspiration of love more powerful than any other.<br />
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<b>Darren's wife kinda noticed...</b><br />
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Griff: how's he follow up from there?<br />Griff: does he discuss his wife and daughter more?<br />Jasmine: he goes on more about his wife than his daughter, though he does compare me to her as well<br />Griff: what's he say about the wife?<br />Jasmine: to sum it up, they didn't get along, she had apparently noticed something in the way he looked at me, he went on saying she didn't understand him like I did<b></b></blockquote>
<b>Jasmine's mom killed by drunken driver </b><br />
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Jasmine: before the notes we did talk about, I was always round Janet's house so i was always invited to things they threw<br />Griff: did they sorta take you in b/c your mother died?<br />Jasmine: Yeah, I got alot of sympathy for it,<br />Jasmine: was it that easy to guess?<br />Griff: dots pretty easy to connect<br />Griff: when did your mother die? how old were you?<br />Jasmine: I was thirteen, she died in a car accident, drunk driver, it sounds cliche as I type it </blockquote>
Don't drink and drive and kill people... seriously.<br />
<b>"I would like to say I never blamed [my dad] and that i understood but that would be a lie"</b><br />
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Griff: and when did you start being promiscuous?<br />Jasmine: when I was 15, but it wasn't a sudden a change, looking back on it<br />Griff: how did you build up to it?<br />Jasmine: lots of arguments with my dad, he took my moms death really hard and wasn't really there when I needed him, my brother tried to help, but wasn't much better at talking to me<br />Jasmine: I don't know really, it seems so subtle<br />Griff: your father disappointed you, eh?<br />Jasmine: No, he wasn't a disappointment to me, I fully understood, just when I needed him, he as never there<br />Jasmine: he tried to make amends before I left for University though<br />Griff: Was he not there emotionally, because he couldn't be? Or did he separate himself physically through work and the like?<br />Jasmine: After my mom he did dive into his work more readily, but I think I reminded him to much of my mom, we were both head-strong, never liked being told what to do<br />Griff: is the letter how he tried to make amends?<br />Jasmine: it was part of it, in the months before I left he tried to be around more, but it was like he'd forgotten how, I would like to say I never blamed him and that i understood but that would be a lie</blockquote>
Jasmine's father had about the same problem as Katniss' mother in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Games" target="_blank"><i>Hunger Games</i></a>. And Jasmine reacted quite like Katniss.<br />
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<b>"Darren's wife didn't like me even before she caught me fucking her husband"</b><br />
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Griff: what was Janet's mother's name?<br />Jasmine: Maude<br />Griff: was Maude maternal toward you? supportive?<br />Jasmine: hmm, she liked me as her daughters friend<br />Jasmine: nothing more really<br />Jasmine: I always got the sense she never liked me<br />Griff: how long were you fucking her husband?<br />Jasmine: maybe two months<br />Griff: did she find out?<br />Jasmine: two and half tops<br />Jasmine: yes, she caught us<br />Griff: lol<br />Jasmine: I wasn't laughing at the time haha</blockquote>
<b> "I kind of just wanted to feel wanted"</b><br />
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Griff: how did you feel?<br />Jasmine: when she caught me, I was disappointed in myself but I was angry at her more<br />Griff: why were you angry at her?<br />Jasmine: he wanted me, I thought she didn't have the right to tell him otherwise<br />Griff: did you want to be with him for a long time? did you feel loved by him?<br />Jasmine: I did feel loved, but it was more that I knew he wanted me<br />Griff: how did Maude catch you?<br />Jasmine: I kind of just wanted to feel wanted </blockquote>
<b>"Well the bed was messy and we were in our underwear" </b><br />
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Jasmine: It sounds like the plot to a bad movie, but we were in his bed, I was skipping off classes (I knew it all it anyway) and he had taken a day off work to be with me<br />Jasmine: she had come home earlier than we expected her too<br />Griff: where were you?<br />Jasmine: she didn't catch us in the act, but we couldn't exactly hide what he did<br />Griff: why not?<br />Jasmine: well the bed was messy, my hair was ruffled (it might not seem like much but I always keep it straight) and we were in our underwear<br />Griff: how did she react?<br />Griff: you fucked in her bed?<br />Jasmine: Yes<br />Jasmine: I told him I wanted that and so did he<br />Griff: wanted to have the affair?<br />Jasmine: He was reluctant at first, and I wasn't pushy about it, I just made it clear that's what I wanted </blockquote>
Darren deserves props for manipulating Jasmine into fulfilling his agenda.<br />
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<b>Maude turns into the Incredible Hulk</b><br />
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Griff: so, how did Maude react when she found you?<br />Griff: did you declare to her that you wanted the affair?<br />Jasmine: have you ever seen the hulk film?<br />Griff: lol. one of the two<br />Griff: she smashed stuff, eh?<br />Jasmine: she tried to smash me<br />Griff: how?<br />Jasmine: if Darren wasn't there she would have tried to kill me I think<br />Jasmine: He stopped her from hitting me</blockquote>
<b>"I was angry at her telling him he didn't want me and I was just a stupid Teenager" </b><br />
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Griff: what did you think of her at that moment?<br />Jasmine: like I said I was disappointed in myself that I had done it, but I was angry at her telling him he didn't want me and I was just a stupid Teenager</blockquote>
Darren was masterful at turning his wife and mistress against each other.<br />
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<b>"Janet and me had a cat fight in class" </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: did Janet find out?<br />Jasmine: there is a reason we don't speak any more<br />Griff: lol<br />Jasmine: about a week later Janet and me had a cat fight in class<br />Griff: oh. how did that go?<br />Griff: did she out you to the class?<br />Griff: did Janet yell at you about the affair when you were fighting?<br />Jasmine: she just started calling me a slut, and a whore, all the normal stuff, I didn't care, my close friends just ignored her and i didn't care about anyone else </blockquote>
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<b> "they divorced about two months after"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: did Darren and Maude reconcile the marriage?<br />
Jasmine: last I heard no, they divorced about two months after<br />
Griff: the power of teenage pussy is greater than the bond of middle-aged marriage, eh? </blockquote>
<b>The hotel room hook-up </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: did Darren try to get with you again after it was over with Maude?<br />Jasmine: we meet up once and he said he was moving away, he wasn't asking me to go with him, he was just letting me know<br />Griff: did you fuck?<br />Jasmine: yes, he rented a hotel room for us<br />Jasmine: I offered to pay for something as i had a part time job but he said he wanted to treat and thank me<br />Griff: did he seem like a broken man? or did he really not like his wife and daughter much?<br />Jasmine: he loved his daughter and was hurt over her, but he didn't seem to have any second thoughts about leaving his wife, she only came up when I asked, he didn't say anything and he answered without missing a beat<br />Griff: you made Maude face the bullshit marriage she had, eh?<br />Griff: she wasn't doing it for her husband<br />Griff: he was willing to pretend<br />Griff: but he didn't want her much anymore<br />Griff: eh?<br />Jasmine: I think he was doing it for his daughter<br />Jasmine: not for anything else, because he genuinely loved her </blockquote>
<b>"I miss Darren" </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how did he end the letter to you?<br />Jasmine: "Jasmine, I want you to keep this letter, I want you to keep it as a reminder that should we ever part I will always remember you and love you, your loving man Darren"<br />Jasmine: the last sentence of the letter<br />Griff: how you feeling now?<br />Jasmine: I miss him</blockquote>
<b>Griff gets rebuffed</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: take off your top<br />Jasmine: had enough of talking to me with my clothes on?<br />Griff: it's time for me to mark you<br />Jasmine: to mark me huh<br />Griff: yes<br />Griff: is your top off?<br />Jasmine: yeah its off<br />Griff: write "home" and then "wrecker" across your tits<br />Jasmine: I did already tell you that I don't do as I am told right<br />Griff: you planning to resist me?<br />Jasmine: way I figure, why not<br />Jasmine: trust me I know I'm damaged, but I am still a tease ;) </blockquote>
<b>A guy has to be willing to walk away </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: are you aroused?<br />Jasmine: I am<br />Griff: why should I spend more time with you?<br />Jasmine: not up to me to give you a reason to talk to me, if you don't to, don't, if you do, do<br />Jasmine: I'll be happy either way<br />Griff: cya around</blockquote>
<b>"Griff, you manipulate people" </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Jasmine: guess i won't be making your blog either then will I?<br />Griff: I like your story<br />Jasmine: but I'm not going up am I?<br />Griff: you are insecure, aren't you?<br />Griff: need approval of a man...<br />Jasmine: I suppose you could say it like that<br />Griff: do you want my approval?<br />Jasmine: you like playing games don't you<br />Jasmine: bending people to your will<br />Griff: I suppose I do<br />Griff: does my manipulative nature make you want me more?<br />Jasmine: it makes me wonder what you do when you meet someone that likes playing games as well<br />Griff: are you like that?<br />Jasmine: hmmm, you tell me<br />Griff: you've shown you see what you want, you take action and you are good at achieving goals<br />Jasmine: So I am driven then, what else am I</blockquote>
<b>Always thinks of Darren when she masturbates </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: you ever think about Janet?<br />Jasmine: Whenever I think about Darren<br />Griff: what percentage of the time you masturbate you think of him?<br />Jasmine: everytime<br />Jasmine: he always pops into my head</blockquote>
<b>Jasmine gets aroused at Griff getting sadistic </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I would like to seduce Janet<br />Griff: get her use to be tied up during sex<br />Griff: tie her to the bed in a hotel room<br />Griff: and then bring you in<br />Griff: and fuck you while you talked about DarrenGriff: then gently finger her to orgasm<br />Jasmine: hmmm, making her listen to me talk about fucking her dad while i bring her off<br />Griff: yes<br />Griff: would that be hot?<br />Jasmine: hmmmm yes<br />Griff: let her know that the other guy who she cared about likes you better than her.<br />Griff: thanks for chatting<br />Jasmine: hmmmm, I like the idea of that </blockquote>
This section probably precludes Jasmine showing Janet this chat session. Oh, well.<br />
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<b>"I hope I get a mention in your blog"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Jasmine: oh, are you done chatting to me then?<br />Jasmine: I'll take the silence as a yes, well it was nice chatting with you, I hope I get a mention in your blog<br />Griff: ok</blockquote>
That was the end of one chat session. About eight hours later I started chatting with Jasmine again.<br />
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<b>Ever so slightly needy</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: you still miss Darren?<br />Jasmine: haha, and here I was thinking you'd forget all about me<br />Griff: I was thinking of our chat<br />Griff: I like you. You're ok.<br />Jasmine: haha just ok?</blockquote>
<b>"I never considered Darren a shit and a disappointment" </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Darren seemed like a real shit in your story.<br />Griff: he didn't keep the flame burning with the wife.<br />Griff: He then flirted with you when you were vulnerable.<br />Griff: Then he fucked you.<br />Griff: He failed to keep it on the down low.<br />Griff: After getting caught he failed to make things right with his wife.<br />Griff: But they he didn't stay a supportive figure in your life either.<br />Griff: He just seems like one big disappointment.<br />Griff: To his wife<br />Jasmine: I never looked at it that way<br />Griff: To his daughter<br />Griff: To you.<br />Griff: To himself. </blockquote>
<b>Jasmine defends Darren: he loved his daughter </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Yeah, your dad didn't handle his wife dying gracefully, but he didn't make it an excuse to fuck up everyone's lives.<br />Jasmine: Darren didn't fuck up my life<br />Jasmine: Don't say that<br />Jasmine: he might have made mistakes but everyone dose<br />Griff: Darren's daughter will probably have trouble trusting anyone for a long time, male or female.<br />Jasmine: I guess<br />
Griff: I don't know what your life would have been like without Darren. But you sex to have sex with forming attachments. And part of me thinks attachments are overrated.<br />Griff: Maybe you weren't looking for any long term relationship or attachment to this point. And I'm fine with that.<br />Griff: But I hope you're not pining for Darren.<br />Griff: He should be able to stay in touch if he really was into you.<br />Griff: It sorta seems like you were an excuse to get rid of his wife and daughter.<br />Griff: for fucks sake. If he wanted a divorce, he should have gotten a lawyer, not fucked his daughter's best friend.<br />Jasmine: No I don't pine over him, I miss him maybe, but I don't pine over him<br />Griff: He meant to hurt his daughter when he fucked you. He knew where it was going.<br />Griff: He used you to get both your friend and his wife out of his life.<br />Jasmine: No, he wouldn't have done that<br />Jasmine: No he told me he loved Janet<br />Griff: Yeah, he said what he needed to say to fuck you.<br />Griff: and he genuinely enjoyed fucking you.<br />Griff: But part of him wanted to "love" his daughter without actually having to deal with her.</blockquote>
<b>"I've looked for him on facebook but I can't find him" </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: am I upsetting you?<br />Jasmine: A little yeah<br />Griff: it wouldn't hurt if it weren't at least partially true<br />Jasmine: No, i don't believe he would do that<br />Jasmine: Not to me<br />Griff: how far away is he?<br />Griff: are you friends on Facebook?<br />Jasmine: No<br />Jasmine: I've looked for him on facebook but I can't find him<br />Griff: I'll bet he blocked you when he created an account.<br />Griff: Have someone else look for him.<br />Griff: you could handle the truth if I'm right, couldn't you?<br />Griff: You're all mature and stuff after fucking so many guys, right?<br />Griff: Too much truth too fast?</blockquote>
<b>"She was my best friend, I didn't mean to hurt her"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Did you ever apologize to Maude and Janet?<br />Jasmine: I haven't spoken to them since I left High School<br />Jasmine: I never had anything to apologize for<br />Griff: LOL. You don't feel a little bad?<br />Jasmine: Why should I<br />Griff: Maude was a cunt. She wasn't taking care of the marriage on her end.<br />Griff: But what about Janet? What did she do to deserve you humiliating her that way? Did she serve booze to the guy who killed your mother or something?<br />Jasmine: She was my best friend, I didn't mean to hurt her<br />Griff: You did hurt her right?<br />Griff: cat got your tongue?<br />Griff: Jasmine?<br />Jasmine: I didn't mean to<br />Jasmine: I loved her like she was my sister<br />Griff: And you're enough of a sociopath that you felt, "I never had anything to apologize for"?<br />Griff: Some sisterly love.<br />Griff: Glad you weren't my sister.<br />Jasmine: I didn't leave her<br />Jasmine: I didn't run out<br />Griff: Are you crying?<br />Jasmine: No, i have nothing to cry over, she over reacted<br />Jasmine: it wasn't my fault he ran away</blockquote>
<b>"I couldn't face her"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Fuck your legalistic attitude.<br />Griff: I'll go along the guy fucking you was was a worthless fucking dog turd of a human being.<br />Griff: And I'll go along with the idea you were less than 50% to blame for the relationship and therefore the harm that resulted.<br />Griff: But it seems immoral to claim you don't own Janet an apology.<br />Griff: You know your actions hurt her.<br />Jasmine: Ok, maybe its harsh of me to say I don't owe her anything, but I didn't mean to hurt her, I loved her<br />Griff: And you have trouble simply saying, "I'm sorry I slept with you father and it resulted in hurting you in a whole bunch of ways."<br />Griff: Saying "I love you," is not a "get out of jail free" card that allows you to avoid saying, "I'm sorry".<br />Jasmine: I couldn't face her</blockquote>
<b>"Darren wouldn't use me like that"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I know.<br />Griff: It's about time you admitted it.<br />Jasmine: I couldn't bear that I hurt her, i loved her, she was my sister, I didn't mean t hurt her<br />Griff: I'm not sure it's healthy or useful for you to think of yourself as a victim, but it's time to take Darren off the pedestal you've put him on.<br />Griff: He was pretty much a shit to everyone, including you and himself.<br />Jasmine: No, he loved me, he wouldn't do that to me<br />Griff: What's there to debate? He did it.<br />Griff: He let his wife catch you and him mostly naked at his place.<br />Griff: There are millions of guys who cheat without rubbing their wives noses in it.<br />Jasmine: he wouldn't use me like that</blockquote>
<b>"She was my best friend. Don't you dare say otherwise!"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: lol<br />Griff: you foolish little girl<br />Jasmine: I am not a child<br />Griff: What evidence is there he cared about you once he got what he wanted: unloading his bitch wife and your "best friend".<br />Griff: ?<br />Jasmine: She was my best friend<br />Jasmine: don't you dare say otherwise</blockquote>
<b>"He wouldn't do that to me, would he?"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Get some friend you trust to look for Darren using his/her FB account.<br />Griff: I'll bet he's got an account and he blocked you b/c he wants nothing to do with you, like he wants nothing to do with Maude and Janet.<br />Griff: You're just another cunt he wanted to be rid of.<br />Jasmine: No<br />Jasmine: I can't believe he would do that<br />Griff: you gonna tell me when you check?<br />Jasmine: he wouldn't do that to me, would he?</blockquote>
<b>"ok, I am crying now, you can stop"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I'm thinking there's a 70-90% chance the whole affair was semi-planned.<br />Griff: He wanted to dump Maude and you were the excuse to do it.<br />Griff: I think she would have stayed with him until Janet graduated and went to college, but he wouldn't....<br />Griff: he wouldn't apologize.<br />Griff: he wouldn't promise to stop fucking you.<br />Griff: he wouldn't promise to be a decent father for a couple more years.<br />Griff: he wanted out, so he told Maude he loved you and couldn't do anything about it.<br />Griff: and once he got his divorce he left town. He was done with you.<br />Griff: Fucking you had ceased to be interesting.<br />Jasmine: ok, I am crying now, you can stop<br />Griff: It was thrilling in the beginning. But once he'd had you a few times and dumped Maude and Janet... there wasn't any reason to keep you around. He wanted out.</blockquote>
<b>"I am not a child!"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Take your top off.<br />Griff: It's time for you to grow up some.<br />Jasmine: I am not a child<br />Griff: Is it off?<br />Griff: I'm getting a drink.<br /><b>Jasmine left the room. (Logged out) </b></blockquote>
Probably wasn't pleasant to go through, but it was probably good for her. <br />
<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-1165635879872122122012-04-22T22:12:00.000-07:002012-04-23T22:15:07.466-07:00Caroline squirts after some degradation<table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">The second time I chatted with Caroline, I had her label her dildo.</td></tr>
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Is there any target easier that a young woman rejected by her father? Well, in Caroline's case, she was also neglected by her whore mother.<br />
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<b>The Introduction </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Hello, Caroline. It's me, Griff<br />
Caroline (Dirty Whore): Hello<br />
Griff: Rebecca, right?<br />
Caroline: Um no, I'm Caroline<br />
Caroline: [age redacted, legal adult] f, [location redacted]</blockquote>
I got a kick out of the fact she responded even though I mistook her for another bitch. <br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">The other "Dirty Whore" I chatted recently. She had some story about a father always away, an alcoholic mother and a brother and priest/minister who molested her.</td></tr>
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<br />
<b>Jack got mean after sex</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how many guys you dated? sucked? fucked?<br />
Caroline: Only 3<br />
Griff: Any of them mean after they got the sex?<br />
Caroline: The last one<br />
Griff: how long were you with him?<br />
Griff: What was his name?<br />
Caroline: My first bf was for about 2 years the second one for 1 year and the last one 2 years<br />
Caroline: his name was Jack</blockquote>
<b>Jack told me I was only good for sex, but I got used to it</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: what did he say? do?<br />
Caroline: Well the first time, he got me really drunk and just fucked me senseless, afterwards he slapped me and called me names, telling me how I was only good for sex<br />
Griff: how did that make you feel?<br />
Caroline: It made me feel really awful but I got used to it after it happened time after time</blockquote>
<b>Prefers White guys</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Caroline: I'm [redacted], but I prefer White guys</blockquote>
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<b>Caroline wants a daddy</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: When did your parent split?<br />
Caroline: I was 12<br />
Caroline: How did you knew that?<br />
Griff: I sense you want a daddy<br />
Griff: Am I right?<br />
Caroline: you are</blockquote>
<b>What Daddy said while drunk has Caroline teary</b><br />
<blockquote>
Griff: Did your father stay active in your life after he split with your mom?</blockquote>
<br />
<blockquote>
Caroline: Not really<br />
Caroline: Visits 2 days a month<br />
Griff: Did he kinda wish you were never born?<br />
Caroline: He has told me that when he got really drunk<br />
Griff: You crying?<br />
Caroline: Teary eyes<br />
Griff: Take off your top<br />
Caroline: Okay</blockquote>
<b>"I was just a burden"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: What did he say when he was drunk?<br />
Caroline: He told me how I ruined his life and that I was just a burden<br />
Griff: He hates your mother, doesn't he?<br />
Caroline: I dont know but I would say so<br />
Griff: How many children they have?<br />
Caroline: Only child</blockquote>
<br />
<b>Mom is kinda a whore for drunk guys, but she's good enough to take three at once</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Your mother date again?<br />
Caroline: Lots of guys<br />
Caroline: mostly drunks<br />
Griff: She kinda a whore?<br />
Caroline: She is<br />
Griff: What have you seen or heard her do for a man?<br />
Griff: fondle your tits some<br />
Caroline: I have heard how she moans out everytime she brings a guy home, one time I was passing by and her bedroom was open, three guys fucking her</blockquote>
<b>One of Mom's tricks made Caroline feel like a cheap whore</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: any of the guys ever try to have sex with you?<br />
Caroline: One but in other occasion, he was leaving my mothers room, puling his zipper up and told me if I wanted to have a go at him<br />
Griff: how did that make you feel?<br />
Caroline: like if he thought I was a cheap whore</blockquote>
<b>Wants angel wings tattoo</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: your mother take money for sex?<br />
Caroline: I have no idea<br />
Griff: What do you suspect?<br />
Caroline: That she sometimes do<br />
Griff: describe your tits<br />
Caroline: 34 C tits, big brownish nipples<br />
Griff: nice. Any tattoos?<br />
Caroline: Nop<br />
Caroline: but I want one<br />
Griff: what do you want?<br />
Caroline: Angel wings</blockquote>
<b>Agrees to griffin tattoos</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: You know what a griffin is?<br />
Caroline: Nope<br />
Griff: it's a mythical beast that guards treasure<br />
Griff: head of an eagle, body of a lion with eagle wings<br />
Caroline: Oh yes!<br />
Caroline: I have seen it before<br />
Griff: once I own you I want to tattoo them on you near your pussy, two of them<br />
Caroline: Yes sir<br />
Caroline: Anything you want</blockquote>
<b>"I will write on myself if you want, but not taking pictures"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: get a marker and camera<br />
Caroline: I only do real encounters, no camera or photos<br />
Griff: well, things in life change<br />
Griff: get a marker and camera, little girl<br />
Caroline: I will write on myself if you want, but not taking pictures<br />
Griff: you got the marker?<br />
Caroline: Yup</blockquote>
<b>Write "burden to daddy" on your tits</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: write "burden to daddy" on your tits<br />
Caroline: ..<br />
Caroline: Okay</blockquote>
<b>"Please don't leave, Griff"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: am I too cruel for you?<br />
Caroline: No<br />
Griff: I can leave<br />
Griff: You want me to leave?<br />
Caroline: No, please don't leave</blockquote>
<b>Load it on your computer</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: let me know when you've written it<br />
Caroline: I'm done<br />
Griff: what color? how did you space the letters?<br />
Caroline: Blue color, I put burden on one tit and to daddy on the other<br />
Caroline: close to the nipples<br />
Griff: I want you to take a picture and load it on your computer<br />
Caroline: Okay<br />
Griff: good bitch<br />
Caroline: Almost done<br />
Griff: ok<br />
Caroline: There<br />
Griff: you got your tits loaded?<br />
Caroline: Yes</blockquote>
<b>"It's really sad"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how's it feel to look at your tits with your father's true feelings staring you in the face?<br />
Caroline: It's really sad<br />
Griff: come on, you're not that pathetic<br />
Griff: you'll do better than your whore mother<br />
Griff: won't you?<br />
Caroline: I hope so</blockquote>
<b>Will Mom pimp Caroline?</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: here's a secret<br />
Griff: she's probably going to start pimping you soon<br />
Caroline: ?<br />
Caroline: I don't think so<br />
Griff: Why not?<br />
Caroline: Well I just don't think she would do something like that</blockquote>
<b>"Mom likes it rough and she says i'm a good for nothing"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: would you like me to fuck her and then tell you about it?<br />
Caroline: Tell me how much of a whore she is?<br />
Griff: yes<br />
Griff: how she likes her sex?<br />
Griff: what she says about you?<br />
Caroline: She likes it rough and she says i'm a good for nothing</blockquote>
<b>"I do draw but I rarely show people my art"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: do you suck at school?<br />
Caroline: I used to suck my bf at school<br />
Griff: what about classes?<br />
Griff: have you shown any aptitude for subjects?<br />
Caroline: Im an average student<br />
Griff: sports?<br />
Griff: are you popular?<br />
Caroline: Semi popular and I used to play soccer<br />
Griff: do you produce art?<br />
Caroline: I do draw but I rarely show people my art<br />
Griff: what do you draw?<br />
Caroline: Most time dark things, but I like drawing landscapes<br />
Caroline: I rarely draw the face of the people I draw<br />
Griff: dark things? like what?<br />
Caroline: Graveyards</blockquote>
<b>The feelings of being hated</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: can you draw your tits?<br />
Caroline: I guess I could<br />
Griff: how you feeling?<br />
Caroline: Weird, like if its all coming back to me, all the feelings<br />
Griff: were you molested?<br />
Caroline: No<br />
Griff: Feelings of what?<br />
Caroline: of being hated</blockquote>
<b>"I have a tight laced necklace"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: who hates you?<br />
Caroline: My parents<br />
Griff: and your ex bf?<br />
Caroline: I dont know if he hates me, I guess he just used me<br />
Griff: you want to give yourself to me?<br />
Caroline: Be your slave?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Griff: you have something to wear around your neck?<br />
Caroline: I have a tight laced necklace<br />
Griff: put it on<br />
Caroline: Let me go for it</blockquote>
<b>You crying? Yes</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: squeeze your neck and throat like I'm choking you lightly<br />
Caroline: Yes sir<br />
Griff: you need a man to own you, don't you?<br />
Caroline: I do<br />
Griff: what does ownership represent to you?<br />
Caroline: That im an object that someone can simply own and do with it whatever they want<br />
Griff: Do you feel worthless in life? Unwanted?<br />
Caroline: I do<br />
Caroline: Im always reminded of it<br />
Griff: what reminds you?<br />
Caroline: My mom not talking to me almost all day long, my dad not caring to see me more<br />
Griff: you crying?<br />
Caroline: ..yes</blockquote>
<b>"Make me one of your bitches"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: say, "Griff, make me one of your bitches"<br />
Caroline: Griff, make me on of your bitches<br />
Griff: is that what you want?<br />
Caroline: Yes Griff<br />
Caroline: Make me your bitch<br />
Griff: email the picture of your tits marked<br />
Caroline: I don't like sending pics of myself<br />
Griff: is your face showing?<br />
Caroline: Yeah<br />
Caroline: I wont send pics of myself<br />
Griff: take a pic that of your tits<br />
Griff: no face<br />
Caroline: Sorry but no<br />
Griff: what will I remember you by?<br />
Caroline: Hm I don't know</blockquote>
<b>Angel over a grave</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: which is your favorite drawing?<br />
Caroline: An angel wiping over a grave<br />
Griff: take a pic of it and send it to me<br />
Caroline: Okay, its not done<br />
Griff: that's fine<br />
Griff: makes it more interesting<br />
Griff: got the drawing?<br />
Caroline: Yup<br />
Griff: take the picture or scan it<br />
Caroline: im scanning it<br />
Griff: good bitch<br />
Griff: let me know when it's scanned<br />
Caroline: Yup<br />
Griff: show me</blockquote>
<b>Will send drawing of tits</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Caroline: Again, still needs a lot of work<br />
Griff: you need a lot of work too, right?<br />
Griff: I like it<br />
Griff: I appreciate it<br />
Griff: I want you to keep working on it<br />
Caroline: Will do<br />
Griff: I also want you to draw your tits, marked as I have directed.<br />
Griff: Will you do this?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Caroline: Will send both when Im done</blockquote>
<b>"I want to be good at something"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how long have you been chatting about sex online?<br />
Caroline: mmm a few months now<br />
Griff: what have you learned?<br />
Caroline: That men love girls who will do anything they want<br />
Caroline: and most are really perverted<br />
Griff: you want to be the girl who will do anything?<br />
Caroline: I want to be good at something</blockquote>
<b>"And also very rough sex"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: what kind of stuff arouses you?<br />
Griff: Caroline?<br />
Caroline: Most are slaps<br />
Caroline: and spanks<br />
Caroline: also deepthroats, when it gets to the point that I cant breath anymore<br />
Caroline: and also very rough sex<br />
Caroline: I also love being called names<br />
Griff: have I made you feel roughed up? degraded during our chat?<br />
Caroline: Yes, a bit</blockquote>
<b>"I wouldn't pay the cunt"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: what made you feel this way?<br />
Caroline: When you asked about my parents, if my dad wished he didnt wanted me<br />
Griff: I like to make a girl like you feel worthless as part of sex.<br />
Caroline: Make us feel as shit?<br />
Griff: Like those guys who fuck your whore mother.<br />
Caroline: You would be one of them<br />
Griff: I wouldn't pay the cunt<br />
Griff: I take psychological control<br />
Griff: and then take what I want.<br />
Caroline: I don't know but the idea of it arouses me</blockquote>
<b>Maybe a week on the drawings</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: You want to serve a man like me, don't you?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Griff: when am I going to get a progress report on those drawings?<br />
Caroline: maybe a week or so if I really work on them<br />
Griff: good bitch</blockquote>
<b>Introducing Caroline to "the blog"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: you want to see how I treat other bitches?<br />
Caroline: I would, that would get me real wet<br />
Caroline: even more now<br />
Griff: do a Google search for my website, "Griff's Cybersex Blog"<br />
Griff: let me know when you've found it<br />
Caroline: Found it<br />
Griff: take some time to look around<br />
Griff: find chat sessions<br />
Griff: tit pictures<br />
Caroline: Ah, so that's why you want a photo of my tits?<br />
Griff: yes</blockquote>
<b>Violated? Mad? Aroused?</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how's that make you feel?<br />
Caroline: Like if you just wanted to expose me to the world<br />
Griff: you feel violated?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Griff: mad? aroused?<br />
Caroline: Both</blockquote>
<b>"I feel quite worthless but I'm not mad anymore"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: girls like you are easy, predictable<br />
Griff: you want to leave?<br />
Caroline: No<br />
Caroline: How am I predictable?<br />
Griff: you want me to be your daddy?<br />
Caroline: Would you?<br />
Griff: maybe, if you're good<br />
Caroline: I will be good<br />
Griff: I could tell your parents split<br />
Griff: and your father basically wishes you'd never been born<br />
Caroline: How could you?<br />
Griff: You're insecure in a way that shows how damaged your relationship is with your father.<br />
Griff: how you feeling now?<br />
Griff: mad?<br />
Griff: crying?<br />
Griff: feeling worthless?<br />
Caroline: I feel quite worthless but I'm not mad anymore</blockquote>
<b>"I want you to be the one"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: You're a piece of ripe fruit for a guy like me to harvest and devour<br />
Caroline: I am<br />
Griff: Do you want me to be the guy who picks you? devours you?<br />
Caroline: Yes, I want you to be the one</blockquote>
<b>"Like being branded with an ownership mark"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how do you groom your pubes?<br />
Caroline: well shaved<br />
Griff: write "for Griff" on your mound<br />
Caroline: Okay give me a sec<br />
Caroline: there<br />
Caroline: Everytime I wrote a letter down I felt how I got wetter<br />
Griff: take a picture<br />
Caroline: okay<br />
Griff: how's it look?<br />
Caroline: degrading but hot<br />
Griff: what do you find degrading?<br />
Caroline: that its like being branded with an ownership mark</blockquote>
<b>"Like a slut"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: you ever posed nude before?<br />
Caroline: my ex took photos of me nude<br />
Griff: how did the pics make you feel?<br />
Caroline: Like a slut</blockquote>
<b>Almost squirted from being violated</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: did he pressure you to do it?<br />
Caroline: Well, being tied down is quite a pressure<br />
Griff: Jack?<br />
Caroline: Yeah<br />
Griff: do you know whom he showed them to?<br />
Caroline: No idea<br />
Griff: how long was this before he dumped you?<br />
Caroline: was like 4 months before<br />
Griff: did you protest? struggle?<br />
Caroline: I did<br />
Caroline: kicked him actually<br />
Caroline: thats why he tied me down<br />
Griff: what did you say?<br />
Griff: did you cry?<br />
Caroline: I did, was crying a lot<br />
Griff: did he fuck you while you were still feeling violated?<br />
Caroline: Yeah<br />
Griff: did you cum hard?<br />
Caroline: Almost squirted</blockquote>
<b>Griff's vanity</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: you ever squirted from masturbating?<br />
Caroline: I have<br />
Griff: when you masturbate tonight, I want to know if you squirt<br />
Caroline: Want me to email you?<br />
Griff: yes</blockquote>
<b>"That you may have control over me"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: do I scare you?<br />
Caroline: Will do then<br />
Griff: do I scare you?<br />
Caroline: A bit, yes<br />
Griff: how many guys you said, "I love you" to?<br />
Caroline: Two<br />
Griff: What scares you about me?<br />
Caroline: That you may have control over me<br />
Griff: Do you feel you need me?<br />
Caroline: Yes</blockquote>
<b>"Like Im less of a person now"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: say, "I realize you probably feel nothing for me. I will try to accept this. But I need you. I need your approval. I need to satisfy you."<br />
Caroline: I realize you probably feel nothing for me. I will try to accept this. But I need you Griff, I really need you. I need your approval. I need to satisfy you.<br />
Griff: say it aloud three times<br />
Caroline: 1<br />
Caroline: 2<br />
Caroline: 3<br />
Griff: how you feeling now?<br />
Caroline: Like Im less of a person now<br />
Griff: why?<br />
Caroline: I feel like Im an object<br />
Griff: Did I make you feel this way? Or was it there and I just found it and brought it to the suface?<br />
Caroline: I think you make me feel that way</blockquote>
<b>"How much of a slut I was"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Is this the kind of sexual experience you thirst for?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Caroline: I haven't been this wet from just taking in a long time<br />
Griff: who make you feel this intensely before?<br />
Griff: made?<br />
Caroline: When Jack was telling me how much of a slut I was, when I got home I saw my panties all wet and my nipples were hard all the time</blockquote>
<b>Physical description</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how tall are you?<br />
Caroline: 5'2<br />
Griff: how much you weigh?<br />
Caroline: Im around 110<br />
Griff: you dance well? ok?<br />
Griff: you got a pretty face?<br />
Caroline: Ok, not the greatest dancer and I do have a pretty face<br />
Caroline: Get a lot of compliments for my smile</blockquote>
<b>I want to please you</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: what do you want to ask me?<br />
...<br />
Caroline: So you like having a woman beneath you, struggling to get herself free?<br />
Griff: yes<br />
Griff: can you see yourself as that girl?<br />
Caroline: Sounds really hot and yes I can see myself like that<br />
Griff: what else you have to say?<br />
Caroline: I need you<br />
Griff: what convinced you?<br />
Caroline: Your view of how to degrade women, not only physically but also psychologically<br />
Griff: What do you see yourself doing for me?<br />
Caroline: Pleasing you sexually, and pleasing other for your own pleasure</blockquote>
<b>"Fuck that was intense Griff"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I want you to masturbate lightly<br />
Griff: while using your other hand<br />
Griff: your thumb<br />
Griff: to press down on your windpipe<br />
Griff: hold it down<br />
Griff: and then release<br />
Griff: hold it for some time<br />
Griff: push yourself a little<br />
Griff: keep masturbating but lightly<br />
Caroline: Okay, how many times?<br />
Griff: do this for about two minutes<br />
Caroline: Okay<br />
Caroline: Will be back in two<br />
Caroline: Fuck that was intense Griff<br />
Griff: what did you experience?<br />
Caroline: I felt lightheaded and how I was loosing sense of what was happening, when I could breathe again I felt a sudden sense of pleasure and again and again<br />
Griff: go on<br />
Caroline: I got really wet and I actually started to shake a bit, trembling<br />
Griff: am I taking you too fast?<br />
Caroline: No<br />
Caroline: I lke it</blockquote>
<b>"I'm nothing; I'm garbage"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how do you feel toward me?<br />
Caroline: I feel like I need to do what you ask, like I need to please you<br />
Griff: you do<br />
Griff: What are you without the approval of a man?<br />
Caroline: Im nothing<br />
Caroline: Im garbage<br />
Griff: like your father feels about you, right?<br />
Caroline: Yes</blockquote>
<b>You have no idea how liberating this has been</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: What kind of man you want the approval from?<br />
Caroline: I want it from you, from a man who knows how to treat someone like me<br />
Caroline: Someone who can degrade me and treat me as a whore<br />
Griff: How's it feel to debase yourself for me?<br />
Caroline: It arouses me a lot but its humilliating<br />
Griff: Is this the real you?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Griff: Is it liberating to admit this and to move on with your life?<br />
Caroline: It is<br />
Caroline: you have no idea</blockquote>
<b>"Thank you"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I'm going to leave soon.<br />
Griff: Any last things you want to say?<br />
Caroline: Do I have your approval?<br />
Griff: You are progressing.<br />
Caroline: Will you keep degrading me?<br />
Griff: Is this what you want?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Griff: yes<br />
Caroline: Thank you</blockquote>
<b>"I'm so wet"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: how you feeling?<br />
Caroline: really aroused<br />
Caroline: Im so wet<br />
Griff: is your mother out?<br />
Caroline: Yes<br />
Caroline: probably bringing a guy home</blockquote>
<b>"Moan my name"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I want you to log off and moan my name loudly as you masturbate<br />
Griff: you have a way of recording it?<br />
Caroline: Dont know, will look how to<br />
Griff: you going to cum hard?<br />
Caroline: For you, yes<br />
Griff: good chance of squirting?<br />
Caroline: Very good chance<br />
Griff: I'm done with you. Log off. Moan my name.<br />
Griff: Remember what I've done to you.<br />
Caroline: Yes Griff<br />
Caroline: Thank you for using me</blockquote>
<b>Email exchange</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: How was your orgasm?<br />
Caroline: It was really intense, I squirted all over my hands and I was moaning your name to the top of my lung. However, I didn't found a way to record it, will ask a friend how to do it for a next time.</blockquote>
<b>Next day, I don't mind it going on "the blog"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: what did you realize from chatting with me?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): That I do like to be humiliated and degraded<br />
Griff: why did it connect with you?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Well I dont know, writing on myself got me so wet, and thats a way of being degraded<br />
Griff: I'm inclined to post that chat on my blog<br />
Griff: you ok with this?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Sure, I don't mind</blockquote>
<b>I want to be your property</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I was to tattoo you.<br />
Caroline (Griff's): I would be your property then?<br />
Griff: Would you feel like my property?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Yeah<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Just with the tattoo, I would feel that way<br />
Griff: Is that what you want?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Yes</blockquote>
<b>"Hell, yeah!"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: Can you accept being one of my bitches?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Yes, I could<br />
Griff: Do you find the idea demeaning? offensive?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Its demeaning but I don't care<br />
Griff: You want me?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): I need you<br />
Griff: why do you need me?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): I want to be accepted in a way, the way my mom or dad doesnt<br />
Griff: they don't accept your sexual desires?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): My mom doesn't really care much about who I fuck, she makes it feel as if I didnt exist<br />
Griff: You'd like me to degrade her so she learns a lesson?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Hell yeah</blockquote>
<b>"A sex shop nearby"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: I want you to make or acquire a collar for your neck.<br />
Caroline (Griff's): leather collar?<br />
Griff: would that suit you?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Yes<br />
Griff: good. You know where to get one?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): yup<br />
Griff: where?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): A sex shop nearby<br />
Griff: you been there?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): With Jack<br />
Griff: good<br />
Griff: looking forward to returning?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Well I wanna see whats new in there, maybe buy something else besides the collar</blockquote>
<b>The blue vibe pictured above</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: what are you contemplating?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Maybe a new vib or dildo<br />
Caroline (Griff's): the one I got is 6 inch maybe buy an 8 inch<br />
Griff: you have a permanent marker?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): yup<br />
Griff: write "Griff" on your 6" vibe<br />
Caroline (Griff's): 'kay, let me get it<br />
Griff: good bitch<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Done<br />
Griff: take a pic of it and show me</blockquote>
<b>"Now I will remember you everytime I masturbate"</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Griff: did it feel dirty to do it?<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Very<br />
Caroline (Griff's): now I will remember you everytime I masturbate<br />
Griff: yeah you will<br />
Caroline (Griff's): Im dripping wet</blockquote>Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-43482707581019649092012-04-20T21:11:00.000-07:002012-04-20T21:13:21.611-07:00Facebook comments on the future of sexFor <i>Alternet</i>, Emily Empel wrote, "<a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/155049/the_future_of_sex_5_trends_that_may_completely_transform_our_sex_lives/?page=entire" target="_blank">The Future of Sex? 5 Trends That May Completely Transform Our Sex Lives</a>". It's mostly some combination of trite and off base, although one of her central thoughts is probably true: sex will be a growth business. (This is probably an interesting discussion, but not where I'm going.)<br />
<br />
Instead I'm going to quote some of the comments on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/AlterNet/17108852506" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and respond to them.<br />
<br />
JT wrote (7 "likes"):<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">I'm sure many people will
disagree with me - but I believe that prostitution has been demonized in
order to disempower women. If women could sell sex at will, then they
would become much more financially independent - and laws could be put
in place to protect them from abuse and disease.</span> </blockquote>
It seems that the most typical situation around the world is that having prostitution illegal creates a situation where the hand of management (pimps) is strengthened when negotiating with workers (prostitutes).<br />
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<br />
I like to think of myself as a realist and see that there will be prostitutes who are mistreated even if it's legal. But I found a good quote on <a href="http://www.womanist-musings.com/2008/07/noam-chomsky-on-pornography.html" target="_blank">Womanist Musings</a>:<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span style="color: black;"> While all paid labour in a capitalist economy
is defiantly exploitation, working in the porn industry is not more
exploitative because what is being produced is sex, or rather the
imitation of reciprocal sex.</span></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span style="color: black;">Why
is sex work necessarily more degrading than working at McDonalds, or a
Dunkin Donuts for that matter? Both involve the sale of ones body, and
labour power to a certain degree. Both involve not being adequately
compensated vis a vis profits versus wage, yet pornography is deemed
horribly degrading. </span></blockquote>
Back to the Facebook comments...<br />
<br />
AL (5 "likes"):<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">This is disturbing indeed.
Presumptuous of the author to use the inclusive "our" as I dont think
these developments will transform sex lives as much as further break
down relationships with real people and entrap people with weaknesses in
this area into their secret virtual worlds of self-indulgence. Not to
mention the further exploitation and degradation of women and children
in the minds of the purveyors if not in the actual sex trade. No doubt
Goldman Sachs will be invested.</span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">KR (5 "likes"):</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">A world without porn wouldnt be such a bad thing</span><span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"> </span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">FP (4 "likes"):</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">Spend more time worrying about our world burning to the ground and less time writing articles with a sexy gameboy as your cover.</span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">DD (4 "likes"):</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">Pro-prostitution feminism:
the idea that women should stop being exploited and objectified by men,
and should start exploiting and objectifying themselves!</span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">MEC (4 "likes"):</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">I guess we all have our
different ways. I'm still old school and I plan on staying that way. To
me theres no better way than sharing your love, heart, soul, mind, body,
thoughts, dreams, and life with one man face to face. To share that
special bond, to have that trust and respect for each other is far more
important to me than watching somebody exploit their body or cybor
sexing.</span><span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"> </span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">MY:</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">Meh. Why not? Nobody seems to
care about the emotional aspect of sex anymore. It's all about getting
off. That's easy to commodify and sell, so, why not?</span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">MH:</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">sex is for kids,,, er i mean
young souls, to whom the allure of money sex and power are a distraction
that delays their awaking and eventual return to a spiritual being with
the one, instead of a spiritual being inna skin suit</span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">NB:</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">Not mentioned, but likely:
with relatively few women servicing the needs of most men we'll see an
explosion in lesbianism. Most families of the future in first world
nations will be lesbian couples with children. Between anti-male family
law and the enhanced world of porn and prostitution most men will avoid
being fathers.</span></blockquote>
<br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">MRJ:</span><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">Age can take so much of the
sting of insecurity out of sexual intimacy. And some of us are lucky
enough to be naturally 'shameless', but I think this potential trend is
more for the younger generations.</span><br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"><br /> Can't remember which sci-fi author
said it, but I'll paraphrase: If it can be done, it will be done
eventually. The author of this article may be a touch naive and
optimistic, but is definitely onto something.</span><span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"> </span><span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"> </span><span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"> </span></blockquote>
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<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text">Ha! More irony. Men, who
generally don't appreciate women for their minds, per se, are getting
robotic, computerized sex toys to replace women. Women have been using
vibrators for years as a male-replacement. So men are paying BIG BUCKS
for a talking, "smart" (but not challenging) sex toy. I guess they
really DO want more out of a relationship than just sex. Whereas women,
forego the computer, the expense, the "pretend" partner and get right
down to the nitty gritty. Yup, cheap, portable, vibrates, done. Given
these facts, if each gender were to make the "live" partners perform
like the "mechanical" ones, then men would take a woman, disable the
part of her brain that speaks without being spoken to, that says
anything that displeases him and prop her legs open always at the ready
for a sperm deposit. And women, according to these facts, would detach a
man's penis, and throw the rest away.</span><br />
<span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"><br /> There's a sociological dissertation in there somewhere.</span></blockquote>
If you aren't getting the sex you want, the intimacy you need, you probably shouldn't be making rules for how other people should be having sex and being intimate. Just sayin'.<br />
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Also, I like the part of <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146882/" target="_blank"><i>High Fidelity</i></a> where Lisa Bonet says that good sex is a human right. <br />
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<br />Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-51018052410281015292012-04-20T20:25:00.000-07:002012-04-20T20:26:42.256-07:00When is a guy being "creepy"?Have I written about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism" target="_blank">feminism</a>?<br />
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To the extent feminism is about empowering women, making sex more accessible and enjoyable and getting past society using sexuality as a cudgel of social control, I'm with the feminists.<br />
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But when feminism becomes the cudgel for social control and attacking men, that's where I part ways with feminists.<br />
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In Jezebel, Hugo Schwyzer wrote, "<a href="http://jezebel.com/5903883/why-guys-really-hate-being-called-creepy/" target="_blank">Why Guys Really Hate Being Called ‘Creepy’</a>".<br />
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BTW, I don't hate being called "creepy". I remember reading in <i>Playboy</i> that if a woman rejects a guy at a bar and says his overture was inappropriate, what she really means in most cases is he wasn't her type.<br />
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Schwyzer's piece suggests that a group of women think they have found something really powerful to use against guys: calling them creeps for being "inappropriate".<br />
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OK, fine. What's inappropriate? Stuff that's against the law? Unwanted sexual contact? Sexual harassment? Fine.<br />
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Hitting on a woman and not taking "no" for an answer. I'll go along with calling that guy a "creep" if he's persistent after he's been rejected.<br />
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But how far do proponents of this campaign want to take it?<br />
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One of my observations is that women don't like to get hit on by guys they perceive as lacking social status. And Schwyzer's piece acknowledges a problem of the "creep campaign":<br />
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Though the word may be <i>occasionally used unfairly (for example, to
describe a physically unattractive guy's genuinely respectful attempt at
striking up a conversation)</i>, "creepy" serves a vital function. No other
word is as effective as describing when a man has crossed a woman's
boundary; no other word forces a man to reflect on how his behavior
makes other people feel. [italics added]</blockquote>
Ah, the problem of how women feel.<br />
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While there is stuff society does that constitutes psychological warfare on women, I have a hard time swallowing the idea that men are supposed to be responsible for how women interpret getting hit on.<br />
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Having been in relationships, I'm aware that women sometimes manufacture feelings that reflect insecurities and past experiences. And aren't the result of how the guy acted.<br />
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As my first girlfriend taught me, "You are responsible for how you feel." If you're not comfortable being hit on, maybe you have the problem, not the "creep" hitting on you.<br />
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The problem of the creep campaign is that the proponents have decided on the weapon (the word "creep"); they have decided who the weapon is to be used against (men); but they aren't clear on what offenses deserve to get a guy labeled a "creep".<br />
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Something tells me this campaign is going to be more popular with lesbians and professional feminists than with hetero women playing the field.Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-11509997541035463062012-04-04T21:39:00.001-07:002012-04-04T21:42:33.111-07:00sub mommy comes looking for humiliation, faces her pastKim(berly) chatted under the name "sub mommy". I sought to break her.<br />
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She didn't give any obvious material at first, characterizing her divorce as being from "growing apart", innocuous sounding.<br />
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After I got some stuff on Kim, I brought her into a private chat with Stephanie. Stephanie discovered submission when her college boyfriend got her drunk and persuaded her to let his two buds watch him fuck her ass. The bf called Stephanie "dirty bitch" when he fucked her ass the first time. The three guys took turns: one in her ass, one in her mouth and one holding her down.<br />
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Anyways... as much as I'd like to believe you're here to read my words, I expect you want to read the chat transcript.<br />
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<b>Have you ever been pimped?</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff: </b>you ever been pimped? Griff, 44 m</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>but honestly its a fantasy</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what's your name?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>kim</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>kimberly</div></blockquote>I figure if she's sub, find out how far she's taken it. <br />
<div></div><div><b>The innocent version of the divorce </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>when was the last time you had a man in your life, Kim?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my husband, divorced 2 years ago</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did he treat you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not too bad</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just worked too much, you knwo that type of split</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>grew apart</div></blockquote><div></div><div><b>"Looking to be totally submissive" </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you pursued your interest in being dominated?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i have a few times</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not to the extent i want</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what did you do?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>some s&m</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>more looking to be totally submissive than tied up</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>enslaved sexually</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>I like to humiliate and degrade a woman</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>mmmm</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>go on...</div></blockquote><div><b>Have you seen my blog? </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>I have examples on my blog, "Griff's Cybersex Blog"</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you looking up the blog?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes...</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>hehe</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>find it?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes about to look now</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>brb...</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>k</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b>e </b>let me know when you've swallowed a couple bites</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ok</div></blockquote><div><b>"I fantasize about being raped"</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ready</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>sir ;)</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>lol</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you like?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>mmhhhmm</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what do you like?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>humiliation</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>degridation</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>use and abuse</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>rape fantasy</div></blockquote><div> If a woman tells me she fantasizes about rape, I figure it's fair game to make her feel as violated as I can.</div><div><br />
</div><div><b>"my sons both using me at the same time... becoming their slave"</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how old are your children?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my sons are 24 and 22</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>nice. they or their peers ever part of your sexual fantasies?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes both</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what do you fantasize about?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my sons both using me at the same time</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>becoming their slave</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>being raped by their freinds and having the greatest orgasms</div></blockquote><div><b>Teasing sons and their friends </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you ever tease their friends?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i have yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>short skirts</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>open blouses</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you get responses?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>reactions?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what happened?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>attempts to hide erections lol</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did your boys notice? get embarrassed?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ive caught them looking too</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i was soooo aroused by that</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>thats what started my fantasies</div></blockquote><div>Getting a pic out of the cunt</div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you sound like you want to show me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>shw you?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>show you what?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>let me see the merchandise, bitch</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes sir</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ill make a link</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>h/o</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>ok</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>sorry</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>having trouble uploading</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>brb</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>ok</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>let me know when you return</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ok so sry</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>got the link now</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>what a production!</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>ok</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>http://tinypic.com/ </div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>nice</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>who took it?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not too school marmy?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my husband, its 3 years old</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>so i have a few more lines around my eyes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>but same weight</div></blockquote><div><b>"I'm an affluent suburban mom without a camera" </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you read any of the blog or just look at the pics?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just looked at the pics</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you want to be one of my bitches, eh?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>anything you want to say first?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no sir</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what color marker you have?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>whats the blog again?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>"Griff's Cybersex Blog"</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>thanks</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>black marker</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>write "mommy" on your tits</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>shall i strip?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>take off the bra</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>do you have any of the tops you used to flash your sons and their friends?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>get the top</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>I want to see both full tit shots and peekaboo shots</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ill need to get a camera</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you have one, right?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no thats what i mean</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my phone doesnt have one</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>ah</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>it doesnt even text lol</div></blockquote><div> The pic Kim provided was a nice nude, but it had a face. I don't like displaying faces because I don't want to display the wrong face with a story attached to it. And I don't want to deal with crazy bitches who get buyer's remorse.</div><div><br />
</div><b>What's the worst thing you've done in life?</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what's the worst thing you've done in life?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>sexually/</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>ethically</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>stealing my sisters boyfriend in college</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>they were engaged</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just to break them up</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i didnt want him</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just wanted to get back at her</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>for what?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>your parents treat her better?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>she was just a bitch</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>the golden child</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>we still dont speak</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>lol</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>your parents still think you are a bitch?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>lol</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>your sister more successful than you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>people like her better than you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>some</div></blockquote><div>This was the first time I used this question (worst thing done in life). I like it. I gets to what she's ashamed of. If you find what a woman is ashamed of, you can probably control her.</div><div><br />
</div><div><b>Have you apologized for fucking your sister's fiance?</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how you feeling?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>shitty sir</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>(btw youre good at this ;) )</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you feel shitty because you kinda know you're a shitty person?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>are you petty?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i can be</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>mean?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i ruined her marraige like it did</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>so obviously both</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you self-absorbed?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>have you ever apologized to your sister?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div></blockquote><div>Who doesn't think she's a cunt at this point?</div><div></div><div><b>Making her confess she's a needy bitch </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you written on your tits yet?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>oh yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>mom on one</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my on the other</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you want to be a sub because you need attention</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>is that part of it?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>say, "I need attention. I'm needy."</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i need attention</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i am needy</div></blockquote><div> <b>If by "grow apart" you mean I was compulsively unfaithful</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>why did your marriage fail?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>he worked too much</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i needed more attention</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you cheat?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how many guys you cheat with?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>well?</div><div></div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>counting sir\</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>12 in 20 years</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how many of them were guys he knew?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how many friends? people from his work?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>3 co workers</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>2 friends</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>random the others</div></blockquote><div><b>Husband's friends were the most degrading </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>were you ashamed?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did the guys treat you like shit?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>but i liked it</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what was the worst one of them did?</div><div></div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>the worst, and most arousing, one spit in my face after calling me a slut</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>the other came on my face and stuck a dollar bill to it</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>was it one of the guys who knew your husband?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>said i was a worthless whore</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes both were</div></blockquote><div><b>Since husband wasn't figuring it out, I made sure he caught me fucking a guy in the kitchen </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you enjoyed humiliating your husband, didn't you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did he find out eventually?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes he did</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did he find out?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how much?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just one of the randoms</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>never knew of friends coworkersd</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>found me at home with random guy i picked up at the mall</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>were you in a compromising position?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>riding his cock</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>on the kitchen counter</div></blockquote><div><b>The theater of getting caught cheating </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did husband react?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>crushed</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yelling</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>screaming</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did you and the guy play it?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>he freaked</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ran out</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i didnt know what to say</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>part of you was relieved to get caught?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>oh yes</div></blockquote><div><b>When a bitch hates her husband... </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what did you hate most about your husband?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>little cock</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>bad attittude</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>terrible lay</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>balding</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>asshole l</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>lol</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how was he an asshole?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just was</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you were mostly a bitch, weren't you/</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>of course lol</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you make a point of subtly telling him he was worthless sexually?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>probably</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>never thought about it</div></blockquote><div><b>You would rather he'd have raped you? </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you would have respected him more if he'd beaten and raped you, wouldn't you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div></blockquote><div><b> I'm a piece of shit</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you're a piece of shit, aren't you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>totally</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you are too much of a bitch to hate yourself as much as you should</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>are you upset?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>a little</div></blockquote><div> <b>"I'm a shitty person"</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you did your best to ruin the life of your sister</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you did your best to ruin the life of your husband</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you never apologized to your sister</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>im worthless sir</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>im a shitty person</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>and you never had the courage to explain to your dickless husband what you wanted from him</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div></blockquote><div> <b>Kim cries, but she hasn't ruined her sons' lives</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you crying?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did I upset you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what finally got through to you?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kim?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just hearing it</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you've ruined a couple lives, or at least did everything you could</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you've disappointed your parents</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>have you fucked-up your sons' lives too?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>they're my golden boys</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>thank God</div></blockquote><div> <b>Ruining lives of sister and husband</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you hide out. you have a nice home, right? a nice job, right?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>but you ruin so much of what you touch.</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>because you are needy</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>and you can't stand to see people near you do well</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no i cant</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you hated that your sister was better than you</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>and once you got disappointed in your husband</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you weren't going to try to make things better</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you decided to ruin him</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes exactly</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>a piece at a time</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div></blockquote><div><b> You hurt people because you are a narcissistic bitch</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>do you hate yourself?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>im worthless</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what do you hate?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you're not worthless</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>if you were worthless you'd have an excuse</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>the reality is that you have it pretty good</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you came from a decent home</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you had a good education</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>stable life financially</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you chose to be the person you became</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my only value is my holes sir</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>and you never apologized to your sister</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>quit talking like some teenage girl who is or is headed to being a whore</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you have skills and talent</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you just use them to hurt people because you are a narcissistic bitch</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>true</div></blockquote><div><b>My excuse is being raped in college (almost 30 years ago) </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what is your excuse?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>were you molested?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kimberly?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did daddy not love you enough?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>raped</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>in college</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>who raped you?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>boyfriend</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>broke up with him</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>he raped me</div></blockquote><div><b> No one told Kim that women have orgasms when raped</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did it start?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i went to leave his apt and he threw me against the door</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>literally ripped my pants off</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you freeze?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what happened next?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>then he violently started to fuck me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>holding my hands behind my back</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i was so scared</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>but came harder than i ever had before</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>crazy right?</div></blockquote><b>Husband had trouble dealing with the rape </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>is that a major part of your sexual fantasy?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you ever tell your husband you were raped?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>he didn't know how to respond, eh?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>avoided it</div></blockquote><div><b> Threw me in the hall, bottomless, dripping cum</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did the rape end?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>him cumming in me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>slapping me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>throwing me in the hallway bottomless</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>cum dripping from me</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>were you on birth control?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes thank god</div></blockquote><b>Going private</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>we're going to take this to a private room</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>ok</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>room name Griff plus two password XXX</div></blockquote><div><span class="yiv1860698534HL"><br />
</span></div><div>D<b>irtyBitch (Stephanie) gets introduced to conversation</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>welcome</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>hi</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kim meet stephanie</div><div></div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>kim</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>hi stephanie</div><div></div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kim is a [redacted] y/o divorced woman who is learning about herself</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kim, what have you learned from chatting with me?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>that im narcissitic</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>slefish</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>and i cant seem to type lol</div></blockquote><b>Bringing Dirty Bitch up to date on the divorce </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you attempt to ruin your sister's life?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>Griff: i am allowed to speak or ask questions? or just listen in silence?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>Stephanie, jump in</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>divorced... married how many times?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>once</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>divorced</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>she fucked around on the guy for 20 years</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>he eventually caught on</div></blockquote><b>Started hating husband after 4 or 5 years </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kim, how long into the marriage did you decide you hated your husband?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>4 or 5 years</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>married how long?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>when did you start cheating?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>20 years</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>5 years in</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>was it one of his friends? work acquaintances?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>both</div></blockquote><b>Kim initiated the first affair </b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>the first affair</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>oh friend</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you initiate it?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div></blockquote><div> <b>Now that you mention it, I was a bitch to my sister before I was raped</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>is getting raped your excuse for fucking over your sister and husband?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not a good one</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you were a bitch to your sister before you got raped</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>am I right?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what sorta stuff you do to her growing up?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>typical bitch things</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>such as?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>rumours at school mostly</div></blockquote><div> <b>Spread rumors sister was a slut</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you spread rumors your sister was a slut?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what was your age difference?</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>how old were you and her when you weredoing this?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>im 2 years younger</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>so i was 15 she was 17</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>oh.. older sister</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you knew even then your parents liked her better, right?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did they like her better because she was a nicer person?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>probably</div></blockquote><div><b>Dirty Bitch asks about the rape </b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how long after the rape did you seduce her husband/fiance?</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>your sister was lucky this was years ago.. otherwise you probably would have taken pics of her sext to her friends</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i bet yes</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>who was raped, you kim?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>by an ex-bf</div></blockquote><div> <b>Griff's diagnosis: if your relationship was shit you wanted to make sure your sisters was shit too</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>Stephanie was raped too, but she didn't make it an excuse to ruin others' lives</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>and then you seduced ur sisters husband? wat was the connection?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no cennection</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>kim, be honest</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i just acted like a bitch because i am</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you react to being hurt by hurting other people</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you couldn't get back at your bf</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>so if your relationship was shit you wanted to make sure your sisters was shit too</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div></blockquote><div> <b>Stephanie tells Kim she had orgasms when raped</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>sub mommy: </b>im obviously fucked up, i came when i was raped</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>understand now, Stephanie?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>but i told you that already</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you ever talked to a woman who has been raped?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not erotically no</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>Stephanie, when your college bf and his friends raped you, did you have orgasms?</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>yes</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>despite how drunk they had gotten me</div></blockquote><div> <b>The origin of "Dirty Bitch"</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what did you bf call you, S?</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>dirty bitch... but that was the first time i consensually let him do anal</div></blockquote><div><b> Hearing from "Dirty Bitch" helps Kim</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how you feeling, kim?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not as bad</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>a little aroused</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what's gotten you aroused?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>knowing stephanie came too</div></blockquote><div><b> "Raped my pussy until I bled"</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>oh, ok... when you were raped, was it just the one ex bf? just raped ur pussy?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just him</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>raped my pussy til i bled</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>then came in me</div></blockquote><div> <b>Why were you in his apartment?</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>why were you in his apartment?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>threw me in the hallway like trash</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes his apt</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>why did you go?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>to get my things i left there</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how long had you dated? what stuff did you have there?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>8 months</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>clothes underwear toiletries</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>was he older? how much?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>2 years</div></blockquote><b> It was the best sex you ever had...</b><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>i am confused... u were living with the guy, having sex, then you broke up and he had sex one more time when you went to pickup ur stuff... was that really such a big deal for you?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>did you have indications he was violent or prone to rage?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no we didnt have sex</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i lived in a dorm room</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>he lived off campus</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>we broke up</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>a week later i went to get my things</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>as i was leaving he grabbed me</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>you dated for two years, had underwear and toiletries at his place so obviously spent the night... but u say you never had sex?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>threw me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no we had sex</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>consunsual</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>was the sex ever rough?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not very</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>how did he get your pants off?</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>and you were always in a willing mood? ever turn him down before that?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i had turned him down</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>he ripped my pants off</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>why were you breaking up with him?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>ripped them at the zipper?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>we broke up because i was tranferring schools</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>why were you transferring?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>wanted a change</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>oh so you were the bitch walking out on him ...seems that way to me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>were you homesick?</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>ever think u deserved it? that you should have been willing to have goodbye sex (i was )</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i guess so</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>looking back on it it turns me</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>on</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>it was the best sex you ever had, wasn't it?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div></blockquote><div><b> It was just an excuse</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>and that was your excuse for fucking over your sis and husband</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>sadly</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>sounds to me like you're just nasty and wanted to mess with ur sis hubby ... no connection to the rape, just used it as an excuse</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div></blockquote><div></div><div><b>Is this what you expected?</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>this is what you came to experience, isn't it, kim/</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>not as sexual as i thought it would b</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you thought you were going to be a nice submissive, eh?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>suburban divorcee</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>exactly</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>little thrilling sex?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>pta mom with filthy fantasys</div></blockquote><div><b> "I want to explore my sexuality"</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>anyone else you've screwed in life besides your sis and husband?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>no</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>just them</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>who else is disappointed in you besides your parents?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>my husband</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>when u cheated on ur husband all those years, was the sex always plain vanilla, vaginal intercourse and oral?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you want him back now/</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>and no</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i want to explore my sexuality</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>why the fuck would he want u back?</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what made you decide you want him back?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i dont sir</div></blockquote><div><b> sub mommy admits she's aging</b></div><blockquote class="tr_bq"><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>you want to cash in on the last few years of being attractive before no guy wants you, eh?</div><div><i><span class="yiv1860698534HL">dirtybitch</span> thinks her story and replys keep changing... she is not yet full reduced to honest testimony</i></div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>yes sir</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>while my tits are still up and ass is firm</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>what have you lost physically in the last year?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>gained weight</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>how big are those breasts we saw in the tub? my guess is that they look firm because they are horizontal and floating up... if u stand naked, how long are they?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>more wrinkles</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>I thought you said you were the same as in the pic</div><div><b>Griff:</b><b> </b>on weight</div><div><b>dirtybitch: </b>how much do they sag?</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>i gained 10 pounds or so in my ass</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>they sag but not too bad</div><div><b>sub mommy: </b>2 inches or so</div></blockquote><div> Soon after sub mommy disappeared.</div>Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-29870897321535079142011-12-25T20:25:00.001-08:002011-12-25T20:25:47.995-08:00Isabelle turn tricks at the grocery store where she works<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g4kMiz39GE0/Tvf3GNS2VII/AAAAAAAAABs/WfkJtN-Xlfg/s1600/Isabelle.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="266" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g4kMiz39GE0/Tvf3GNS2VII/AAAAAAAAABs/WfkJtN-Xlfg/s400/Isabelle.JPG" width="400" /></a></div>Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-46433041175049195232011-12-05T16:47:00.000-08:002011-12-05T16:49:25.196-08:00Master Viper's unfaithful Indian wifeI was chatting on <a href="http://eroticsexchat.com/" target="_blank">Erotic Sex Chat</a> with Master Viper and I told him I had heard good things about his work (which I had from an anonymous source). I asked him if he had any material for Griff's Cybersex Blog.<br />
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge6cFY5hh6wcoHHLMVmqGA0Ol8OsJ3VKNdzE2xyrDNXR9fBo9FbGvKwtzJqTOG1cVlQOZgNveEg_WcKKfNS9_z5h1FFu9xFl3RRQ9nTSa5pWSpIP7YBw5uKEP2EgW93MgKVB0wf_t2vzY/s1600/2009-10-16-07-05-0.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="263" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge6cFY5hh6wcoHHLMVmqGA0Ol8OsJ3VKNdzE2xyrDNXR9fBo9FbGvKwtzJqTOG1cVlQOZgNveEg_WcKKfNS9_z5h1FFu9xFl3RRQ9nTSa5pWSpIP7YBw5uKEP2EgW93MgKVB0wf_t2vzY/s320/2009-10-16-07-05-0.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><a name='more'></a>Master Viper's email:<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">oneday i met an indian wife in ESC .she stays [redacted],but her husband remains abroad on business purposes most of the time.she is a sex starved and a kinky indian lady..then i came to know that she has a pakistani neighbour with whom she has a sexual relationship..more like fuck buddies.then i did a nasty rp with her and told her to send me some pics of her boobs being pressed and groped by the paki guy..and guess what she sends me those pics within 24 hrs.</blockquote><br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhEdzTUIpL2iIprnuM2rgc6uUScMMHlB3W_ywK4W0JSaJHZmyBYlqCpgMLn5l6Ac7kCS45-JEBiHGy64wYA2QAnSF33hu6c1yn4wOuqrDPDh1_aFTBla_CY3But1DaZLNZU6va8coH4vuQ/s1600/2009-10-16-07-07-0.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhEdzTUIpL2iIprnuM2rgc6uUScMMHlB3W_ywK4W0JSaJHZmyBYlqCpgMLn5l6Ac7kCS45-JEBiHGy64wYA2QAnSF33hu6c1yn4wOuqrDPDh1_aFTBla_CY3But1DaZLNZU6va8coH4vuQ/s320/2009-10-16-07-07-0.jpg" width="320" /></a></div>Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4131289086674792378.post-17302734298384061012011-12-05T16:32:00.000-08:002011-12-05T16:32:48.279-08:00Brady, open your eyes! Your wife is cheating.One of the things I get a kick out of is when I can disabuse someone of their beliefs about the world and their place in it. It's cruel, but most people would rather know the truth, right?<br />
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I met Brady in the <a href="http://eroticsexchat.com/" target="_blank">Erotic Sex Chat</a> "Family Fun Room". I mentioned something about a woman being molested by her uncle in the room and Brady PM'd me.<br />
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Poor guy. His main sexual fantasy was about his wife. And by the end of the chat I had to point out that she was an unfaithful whore.<br />
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<strong>Wife molested by uncle said her "body responded"</strong><br />
<blockquote><b>Griff </b>have you touch your children sexually?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>no, but i was interested in your comment. my wife was molested by an uncle<br />
<b>Griff </b>chat with IncestMom<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>she gave you details?<br />
<b>Griff </b>yes. has your wife been holding out on you?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>holding out?<br />
<b>Griff </b>has she told you she enjoyed sex with her uncle?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>she said she didn't want it, but that her "body responded"<br />
<b>Griff </b>that sounds pretty truthful<br />
<b>Griff </b>have you wondered about it?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>of course. i'm not sure exactly what she meanss by it<br />
<a name='more'></a></blockquote><strong>Griff gives his prescription</strong><br />
<blockquote><b>Griff </b>you taller and stronger than her?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>of course<br />
<b>Griff </b>pin her face down to the bed<br />
<b>Griff </b>get on top of her<br />
<b>Griff </b>start to ask her details<br />
<b>Griff </b>finger her as she's telling the story<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>why?<br />
<b>Griff </b>ask her if she thinks back to her uncle when she masturbates'<br />
<b>Griff </b>ask her if she's thought about him while you are inside her<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>she says he didn't actually rape her<br />
<b>Griff </b>make her give the details<br />
<b>Griff </b>make her explain how her body responded<br />
<b>Griff </b>she wants you to do this<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>i would guess that she got wet involuntarily<br />
<b>Griff </b>from what?<br />
<b>Griff </b>sucking his cock?<br />
<b>Griff </b>I suspect he fucked her and she's been playing coy<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>in all honestly i have wondered about that<br />
<b>Griff </b>you pin her down and get her moaning<br />
<b>Griff </b>make her feel like she's not going to be judged<br />
<b>Griff </b>she'll pick-up that it's arousing you<br />
<b>Griff </b>tell her you forgive her for deceiving you in the past<br />
<b>Griff </b>you want her to unburden herself of the truth now</blockquote><b>Wife withheld info about uncle and she cheats</b><br />
<blockquote><b>Brady, Married 36: </b>she didn't tell me anything until after we were married<br />
<b>Griff </b>she'll tell you<br />
<b>Griff </b>do you feel misled?<br />
<b>Griff </b>like she should have told you earlier?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>yes, am i wrong?<br />
<b>Griff </b>would you have declined to marry her?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>no because she didn't seem to have been affected sexually by it<br />
<b>Griff </b>she probably has been somewhat<br />
<b>Griff </b>has she been a good wife?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>she has cheated<br />
<b>Griff </b>who did she cheat with?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>it has happened twice. think it is connected to her abuse?<br />
<b>Griff </b>maybe<br />
<b>Griff </b>when does she cheat?<br />
<b>Griff </b>on trips for work? when you travel?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>no once it was just with a guy a one time thing. andother time is was a real affair<br />
<b>Griff </b>where did she know these guys from?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>the last one at work, the other one met at a party</blockquote><strong>Griff's suggestion for the cheating spouse</strong><br />
<blockquote><b>Griff </b>do you feel you need to discipline her?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>she promised never to do it ag ain<br />
<b>Griff </b>did you catch her twice? or once and then confessed to two different guys?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>i caught her both times<br />
<b>Griff </b>lol<br />
<b>Griff </b>you have children with her?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>yes two<br />
<b>Griff </b>how old?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>daughter 14, son 12<br />
<b>Griff </b>here's what I recommend<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>ok<br />
<b>Griff </b>get a video camera and take her to a private place<br />
<b>Griff </b>have her confess to the affairs and hook-ups on video<br />
<b>Griff </b>clear the air on everything<br />
<b>Griff </b>fresh start if she tells the truth<br />
<b>Griff </b>tell her if she cheats again, you will distribute the videos as you see fit</blockquote><strong>Dude, you need to be more dominant</strong><br />
<blockquote><b>Brady, Married 36: </b>both men were quite a bit older<br />
<b>Griff </b>it's time for her to be a dutiful wife and stop screwing around<br />
<b>Griff </b>you should deal with the uncle thing too<br />
<b>Griff </b>but I sense she needs you to be more dominant<br />
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</blockquote><strong>"honestly, i think a lot about my wife and her uncle. is that strange?"</strong><br />
<blockquote><b>Brady, Married 36: </b>yes i would like to know a lot more about that. she won't say she liked it, just that her body responded<br />
<b>Griff </b>I told you how to deal with that<br />
<b>Griff </b>what fantasies do you have?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>about what happened?<br />
<b>Griff </b>if you could have any sexual encounter, what would it be?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>not sure. what about you?<br />
<b>Griff </b>blah, blah, blah ;-)<br />
<b>Griff </b>and more blah, blah, blan<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>how would [redacted]?<br />
<b>Griff </b>hold her down<br />
<b>Griff </b>finger her until she cums<br />
<b>Griff </b>degrade her<br />
<b>Griff </b>put things in her<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>wow<br />
<b>Griff </b>now what do you fantasize about? your daughter's friends? your daughter?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>honestly, i think a lot about my wife and her uncle. is that strange?<br />
<b>Griff </b>nope<br />
<b>Griff </b>you definitely should make her tell the full story</blockquote><b>Want me to interview your wife?</b><br />
<blockquote><b>Griff </b>you want me to interview your wife?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>interview?<br />
<b>Griff </b>talk to her online or in person?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>think she would tell you more than me?<br />
<b>Griff </b>maybe<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>anonymity<br />
<b>Griff </b>does she know you chat online?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>yes, but not where<br />
<b>Griff </b>does she know it's sex chat?</blockquote><br />
<strong>Wife's reaction when Brady said he was going online to chat about sex<br />
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<blockquote><strong>Brady, Married 36:</strong> yeah i just told her i was curious about what goes on<br />
<strong>Griff</strong> how did she react?<br />
<strong>Brady, Married 36:</strong> just laughed</blockquote><b>Griff explains about selling real estate and affairs</b><br />
<blockquote><b>Griff </b>what hours does she work?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>varies. she sells real estate<br />
<b>Griff </b>dude, she's fucking around all the time<br />
<b>Griff </b>I'm sorry<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>i hope not<br />
<b>Griff </b>she can be gone any time and tell you it's a sales appointment, right?<br />
<b>Brady, Married 36: </b>yes<br />
<b>Griff </b>and she can throw in some pussy to sweeten the sale, right?<br />
<span class="HL"><strong>Brady, Married 36</strong></span> left the room. (Logged out)<br />
</blockquote>I suspect Brady might be into <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold#Cuckoldry_as_a_fetish" target="_blank">cuckolding</a>. So he might not be that bad off. Griffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835276821579729987noreply@blogger.com0