sub mommy comes looking for humiliation, faces her past

Kim(berly) chatted under the name "sub mommy". I sought to break her.

She didn't give any obvious material at first, characterizing her divorce as being from "growing apart", innocuous sounding.

After I got some stuff on Kim, I brought her into a private chat with Stephanie. Stephanie discovered submission when her college boyfriend got her drunk and persuaded her to let his two buds watch him fuck her ass. The bf called Stephanie "dirty bitch" when he fucked her ass the first time. The three guys took turns: one in her ass, one in her mouth and one holding her down.

Anyways... as much as I'd like to believe you're here to read my words, I expect you want to read the chat transcript.


Have you ever been pimped?

Griff: you ever been pimped? Griff, 44 m

sub mommy: no

sub mommy: but honestly its a fantasy

Griff: what's your name?

sub mommy: kim

sub mommy: kimberly

I figure if she's sub, find out how far she's taken it.

The innocent version of the divorce

Griff: when was the last time you had a man in your life, Kim?

sub mommy: my husband, divorced 2 years ago

Griff: how did he treat you?

sub mommy: not too bad

sub mommy: just worked too much, you knwo that type of split

sub mommy: grew apart

"Looking to be totally submissive"

Griff: you pursued your interest in being dominated?

sub mommy: i have a few times

sub mommy: not to the extent i want

Griff: what did you do?

sub mommy: some s&m

sub mommy: more looking to be totally submissive than tied up

sub mommy: enslaved sexually

Griff: I like to humiliate and degrade a woman

sub mommy: mmmm

sub mommy: go on...

Have you seen my blog?

Griff: I have examples on my blog, "Griff's Cybersex Blog"

Griff: you looking up the blog?

sub mommy: yes...

sub mommy: hehe

Griff: find it?

sub mommy: yes about to look now

sub mommy: brb...

Griff: k

Griff:e let me know when you've swallowed a couple bites

sub mommy: ok

"I fantasize about being raped"

sub mommy: ready

sub mommy: sir ;)

Griff: lol

Griff: you like?

sub mommy: mmhhhmm

Griff: what do you like?

sub mommy: humiliation

sub mommy: degridation

sub mommy: use and abuse

sub mommy: rape fantasy

 If a woman tells me she fantasizes about rape, I figure it's fair game to make her feel as violated as I can.

"my sons both using me at the same time... becoming their slave"

Griff: how old are your children?

sub mommy: my sons are 24 and 22

Griff: nice. they or their peers ever part of your sexual fantasies?

sub mommy: yes both

Griff: what do you fantasize about?

sub mommy: my sons both using me at the same time

sub mommy: becoming their slave

sub mommy: being raped by their freinds and having the greatest orgasms

Teasing sons and their friends

Griff: you ever tease their friends?

sub mommy: i have yes

sub mommy: short skirts

sub mommy: open blouses

Griff: did you get responses?

Griff: reactions?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: what happened?

sub mommy: attempts to hide erections lol

Griff: did your boys notice? get embarrassed?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: ive caught them looking too

sub mommy: i was soooo aroused by that

sub mommy: thats what started my fantasies

Getting a pic out of the cunt

Griff: you sound like you want to show me

sub mommy: shw you?

Griff: yes

sub mommy: show you what?

Griff: let me see the merchandise, bitch

sub mommy: yes sir

sub mommy: ill make a link

sub mommy: h/o

Griff: ok

sub mommy: sorry

sub mommy: having trouble uploading

sub mommy: brb

Griff: ok

Griff: let me know when you return

sub mommy: ok so sry

sub mommy: got the link now

sub mommy: what a production!

Griff: ok

sub mommy: http://tinypic.com/

Griff: nice

Griff: who took it?

sub mommy: not too school marmy?

sub mommy: my husband, its 3 years old

sub mommy: so i have a few more lines around my eyes

sub mommy: but same weight

"I'm an affluent suburban mom without a camera"

Griff: you read any of the blog or just look at the pics?

sub mommy: just looked at the pics

Griff: you want to be one of my bitches, eh?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: anything you want to say first?

sub mommy: no sir

Griff: what color marker you have?

sub mommy: whats the blog again?

Griff: "Griff's Cybersex Blog"

sub mommy: thanks

sub mommy: black marker

Griff: write "mommy" on your tits

sub mommy: shall i strip?

Griff: take off the bra

Griff: do you have any of the tops you used to flash your sons and their friends?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: get the top

Griff: I want to see both full tit shots and peekaboo shots

sub mommy: ill need to get a camera

Griff: you have one, right?

sub mommy: no thats what i mean

sub mommy: my phone doesnt have one

Griff: ah

sub mommy: it doesnt even text lol

 The pic Kim provided was a nice nude, but it had a face. I don't like displaying faces because I don't want to display the wrong face with a story attached to it. And I don't want to deal with crazy bitches who get buyer's remorse.

What's the worst thing you've done in life?

Griff: what's the worst thing you've done in life?

sub mommy: sexually/

sub mommy: ?

Griff: ethically

sub mommy: stealing my sisters boyfriend in college

sub mommy: they were engaged

sub mommy: just to break them up

sub mommy: i didnt want him

sub mommy: just wanted to get back at her

Griff: for what?

Griff: your parents treat her better?

sub mommy: she was just a bitch

sub mommy: the golden child

sub mommy: we still dont speak

Griff: lol

Griff: your parents still think you are a bitch?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: lol

Griff: your sister more successful than you?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: people like her better than you?

sub mommy: some

This was the first time I used this question (worst thing done in life). I like it. I gets to what she's ashamed of. If you find what a woman is ashamed of, you can probably control her.

Have you apologized for fucking your sister's fiance?

Griff: how you feeling?

sub mommy: shitty sir

sub mommy: (btw youre good at this ;) )

Griff: you feel shitty because you kinda know you're a shitty person?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: are you petty?

sub mommy: i can be

Griff: mean?

sub mommy: i ruined her marraige like it did

sub mommy: so obviously both

Griff: you self-absorbed?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: have you ever apologized to your sister?

sub mommy: no

Who doesn't think she's a cunt at this point?

Making her confess she's a needy bitch

Griff: you written on your tits yet?

sub mommy: oh yes

sub mommy: mom on one

sub mommy: my on the other

Griff: you want to be a sub because you need attention

Griff: is that part of it?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: say, "I need attention. I'm needy."

sub mommy: i need attention

sub mommy: i am needy

 If by "grow apart" you mean I was compulsively unfaithful

Griff: why did your marriage fail?

sub mommy: he worked too much

sub mommy: i needed more attention

Griff: did you cheat?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: how many guys you cheat with?

Griff: well?

sub mommy: counting sir\

sub mommy: 12 in 20 years

Griff: how many of them were guys he knew?

Griff: how many friends? people from his work?

sub mommy: 3 co workers

sub mommy: 2 friends

sub mommy: random the others

Husband's friends were the most degrading

Griff: were you ashamed?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: did the guys treat you like shit?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: but i liked it

Griff: what was the worst one of them did?

sub mommy: the worst, and most arousing, one spit in my face after calling me a slut

sub mommy: the other came on my face and stuck a dollar bill to it

Griff: was it one of the guys who knew your husband?

sub mommy: said i was a worthless whore

sub mommy: yes both were

Since husband wasn't figuring it out, I made sure he caught me fucking a guy in the kitchen

Griff: you enjoyed humiliating your husband, didn't you?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: did he find out eventually?

sub mommy: yes he did

Griff: how did he find out?

Griff: how much?

sub mommy: just one of the randoms

sub mommy: never knew of friends coworkersd

sub mommy: found me at home with random guy i picked up at the mall

Griff: were you in a compromising position?

sub mommy: riding his cock

sub mommy: on the kitchen counter

The theater of getting caught cheating

Griff: how did husband react?

sub mommy: crushed

sub mommy: yelling

sub mommy: screaming

Griff: how did you and the guy play it?

sub mommy: he freaked

sub mommy: ran out

sub mommy: i didnt know what to say

Griff: part of you was relieved to get caught?

sub mommy: oh yes

When a bitch hates her husband...

Griff: what did you hate most about your husband?

sub mommy: little cock

sub mommy: bad attittude

sub mommy: terrible lay

sub mommy: balding

sub mommy: asshole l

sub mommy: lol

Griff: how was he an asshole?

sub mommy: just was

Griff: you were mostly a bitch, weren't you/

sub mommy: of course lol

Griff: did you make a point of subtly telling him he was worthless sexually?

sub mommy: probably

sub mommy: never thought about it

You would rather he'd have raped you?

Griff: you would have respected him more if he'd beaten and raped you, wouldn't you?

sub mommy: yes

 I'm a piece of shit

Griff: you're a piece of shit, aren't you?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: totally

Griff: you are too much of a bitch to hate yourself as much as you should

Griff: are you upset?

sub mommy: a little

 "I'm a shitty person"

Griff: you did your best to ruin the life of your sister

Griff: you did your best to ruin the life of your husband

Griff: you never apologized to your sister

sub mommy: im worthless sir

sub mommy: im a shitty person

Griff: and you never had the courage to explain to your dickless husband what you wanted from him

sub mommy: no

 Kim cries, but she hasn't ruined her sons' lives

Griff: you crying?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: did I upset you?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: what finally got through to you?

Griff: kim?

sub mommy: just hearing it

Griff: you've ruined a couple lives, or at least did everything you could

Griff: you've disappointed your parents

Griff: have you fucked-up your sons' lives too?

sub mommy: no

sub mommy: they're my golden boys

Griff: thank God

 Ruining lives of sister and husband

Griff: you hide out. you have a nice home, right? a nice job, right?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: but you ruin so much of what you touch.

Griff: because you are needy

sub mommy: yes

Griff: and you can't stand to see people near you do well

sub mommy: no i cant

Griff: you hated that your sister was better than you

Griff: and once you got disappointed in your husband

Griff: you weren't going to try to make things better

Griff: you decided to ruin him

sub mommy: yes exactly

Griff: a piece at a time

sub mommy: yes

 You hurt people because you are a narcissistic bitch

Griff: do you hate yourself?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: im worthless

Griff: what do you hate?

Griff: you're not worthless

Griff: if you were worthless you'd have an excuse

Griff: the reality is that you have it pretty good

Griff: you came from a decent home

Griff: you had a good education

Griff: stable life financially

Griff: you chose to be the person you became

sub mommy: my only value is my holes sir

Griff: and you never apologized to your sister

Griff: quit talking like some teenage girl who is or is headed to being a whore

Griff: you have skills and talent

Griff: you just use them to hurt people because you are a narcissistic bitch

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: true

My excuse is being raped in college (almost 30 years ago)

Griff: what is your excuse?

Griff: were you molested?

Griff: kimberly?

sub mommy: no

Griff: did daddy not love you enough?

sub mommy: raped

sub mommy: in college

Griff: who raped you?

sub mommy: boyfriend

sub mommy: broke up with him

sub mommy: he raped me

 No one told Kim that women have orgasms when raped

Griff: how did it start?

sub mommy: i went to leave his apt and he threw me against the door

sub mommy: literally ripped my pants off

Griff: did you freeze?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: what happened next?

sub mommy: then he violently started to fuck me

sub mommy: holding my hands behind my back

sub mommy: i was so scared

sub mommy: but came harder than i ever had before

sub mommy: crazy right?

Husband had trouble dealing with the rape

Griff: is that a major part of your sexual fantasy?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: you ever tell your husband you were raped?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: he didn't know how to respond, eh?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: avoided it

 Threw me in the hall, bottomless, dripping cum

Griff: how did the rape end?

sub mommy: him cumming in me

sub mommy: slapping me

sub mommy: throwing me in the hallway bottomless

sub mommy: cum dripping from me

Griff: were you on birth control?

sub mommy: yes thank god

Going private

Griff: we're going to take this to a private room

sub mommy: ok

Griff: room name Griff plus two password XXX

DirtyBitch (Stephanie) gets introduced to conversation

Griff: welcome

sub mommy: hi

Griff: kim meet stephanie

dirtybitch: kim

sub mommy: hi stephanie

Griff: kim is a [redacted] y/o divorced woman who is learning about herself

Griff: kim, what have you learned from chatting with me?

sub mommy: that im narcissitic

sub mommy: slefish

sub mommy: and i cant seem to type lol

Bringing Dirty Bitch up to date on the divorce

Griff: did you attempt to ruin your sister's life?

sub mommy: yes

dirtybitch: Griff: i am allowed to speak or ask questions? or just listen in silence?

Griff: Stephanie, jump in

dirtybitch: divorced... married how many times?

sub mommy: once

sub mommy: divorced

Griff: she fucked around on the guy for 20 years

Griff: he eventually caught on

Started hating husband after 4 or 5 years

Griff: kim, how long into the marriage did you decide you hated your husband?

sub mommy: 4 or 5 years

dirtybitch: married how long?

Griff: when did you start cheating?

sub mommy: 20 years

sub mommy: 5 years in

Griff: was it one of his friends? work acquaintances?

sub mommy: both

Kim initiated the first affair

Griff: the first affair

sub mommy: oh friend

Griff: did you initiate it?

sub mommy: yes

 Now that you mention it, I was a bitch to my sister before I was raped

Griff: is getting raped your excuse for fucking over your sister and husband?

sub mommy: not a good one

Griff: you were a bitch to your sister before you got raped

Griff: am I right?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: what sorta stuff you do to her growing up?

sub mommy: typical bitch things

Griff: such as?

sub mommy: rumours at school mostly

 Spread rumors sister was a slut

Griff: you spread rumors your sister was a slut?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: what was your age difference?

dirtybitch: how old were you and her when you weredoing this?

sub mommy: im 2 years younger

sub mommy: so i was 15 she was 17

dirtybitch: oh.. older sister

Griff: you knew even then your parents liked her better, right?

sub mommy: yes

Griff: did they like her better because she was a nicer person?

sub mommy: probably

Dirty Bitch asks about the rape

Griff: how long after the rape did you seduce her husband/fiance?

dirtybitch: your sister was lucky this was years ago.. otherwise you probably would have taken pics of her sext to her friends

sub mommy: i bet yes

dirtybitch: who was raped, you kim?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: by an ex-bf

 Griff's diagnosis: if your relationship was shit you wanted to make sure your sisters was shit too

Griff: Stephanie was raped too, but she didn't make it an excuse to ruin others' lives

dirtybitch: and then you seduced ur sisters husband? wat was the connection?

sub mommy: no cennection

Griff: kim, be honest

sub mommy: i just acted like a bitch because i am

Griff: you react to being hurt by hurting other people

sub mommy: yes

Griff: you couldn't get back at your bf

sub mommy: no

Griff: so if your relationship was shit you wanted to make sure your sisters was shit too

sub mommy: yes

 Stephanie tells Kim she had orgasms when raped

sub mommy: im obviously fucked up, i came when i was raped

Griff: understand now, Stephanie?

sub mommy: but i told you that already

Griff: you ever talked to a woman who has been raped?

sub mommy: not erotically no

Griff: Stephanie, when your college bf and his friends raped you, did you have orgasms?

dirtybitch: yes

dirtybitch: despite how drunk they had gotten me

 The origin of "Dirty Bitch"

Griff: what did you bf call you, S?

dirtybitch: dirty bitch... but that was the first time i consensually let him do anal

 Hearing from "Dirty Bitch" helps Kim

Griff: how you feeling, kim?

sub mommy: not as bad

sub mommy: a little aroused

Griff: what's gotten you aroused?

sub mommy: knowing stephanie came too

 "Raped my pussy until I bled"

dirtybitch: oh, ok... when you were raped, was it just the one ex bf? just raped ur pussy?

sub mommy: just him

sub mommy: raped my pussy til i bled

sub mommy: then came in me

 Why were you in his apartment?

Griff: why were you in his apartment?

sub mommy: threw me in the hallway like trash

sub mommy: yes his apt

Griff: why did you go?

sub mommy: to get my things i left there

Griff: how long had you dated? what stuff did you have there?

sub mommy: 8 months

sub mommy: clothes underwear toiletries

Griff: was he older? how much?

sub mommy: 2 years

 It was the best sex you ever had...

dirtybitch: i am confused... u were living with the guy, having sex, then you broke up and he had sex one more time when you went to pickup ur stuff... was that really such a big deal for you?

Griff: did you have indications he was violent or prone to rage?

sub mommy: no we didnt have sex

sub mommy: i lived in a dorm room

sub mommy: he lived off campus

sub mommy: we broke up

sub mommy: a week later i went to get my things

sub mommy: as i was leaving he grabbed me

dirtybitch: you dated for two years, had underwear and toiletries at his place so obviously spent the night... but u say you never had sex?

sub mommy: threw me

sub mommy: no we had sex

sub mommy: consunsual

Griff: was the sex ever rough?

sub mommy: not very

Griff: how did he get your pants off?

dirtybitch: and you were always in a willing mood? ever turn him down before that?

sub mommy: i had turned him down

sub mommy: he ripped my pants off

dirtybitch: why were you breaking up with him?

Griff: ripped them at the zipper?

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: we broke up because i was tranferring schools

Griff: why were you transferring?

sub mommy: wanted a change

dirtybitch: oh so you were the bitch walking out on him ...seems that way to me

sub mommy: yes

Griff: were you homesick?

dirtybitch: ever think u deserved it? that you should have been willing to have goodbye sex (i was )

sub mommy: i guess so

sub mommy: looking back on it it turns me

sub mommy: on

Griff: it was the best sex you ever had, wasn't it?

sub mommy: yes

 It was just an excuse

Griff: and that was your excuse for fucking over your sis and husband

sub mommy: sadly

dirtybitch: sounds to me like you're just nasty and wanted to mess with ur sis hubby ... no connection to the rape, just used it as an excuse

sub mommy: yes

Is this what you expected?

Griff: this is what you came to experience, isn't it, kim/

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: not as sexual as i thought it would b

Griff: you thought you were going to be a nice submissive, eh?

Griff: suburban divorcee

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: exactly

Griff: little thrilling sex?

sub mommy: pta mom with filthy fantasys

 "I want to explore my sexuality"

Griff: anyone else you've screwed in life besides your sis and husband?

sub mommy: no

sub mommy: just them

Griff: who else is disappointed in you besides your parents?

sub mommy: my husband

dirtybitch: when u cheated on ur husband all those years, was the sex always plain vanilla, vaginal intercourse and oral?

Griff: you want him back now/

sub mommy: yes

sub mommy: and no

sub mommy: i want to explore my sexuality

dirtybitch: why the fuck would he want u back?

Griff: what made you decide you want him back?

sub mommy: i dont sir

 sub mommy admits she's aging

Griff: you want to cash in on the last few years of being attractive before no guy wants you, eh?

dirtybitch thinks her story and replys keep changing... she is not yet full reduced to honest testimony

sub mommy: yes sir

sub mommy: while my tits are still up and ass is firm

Griff: what have you lost physically in the last year?

sub mommy: gained weight

dirtybitch: how big are those breasts we saw in the tub? my guess is that they look firm because they are horizontal and floating up... if u stand naked, how long are they?

sub mommy: more wrinkles

Griff: I thought you said you were the same as in the pic

Griff: on weight

dirtybitch: how much do they sag?

sub mommy: i gained 10 pounds or so in my ass

sub mommy: they sag but not too bad

sub mommy: 2 inches or so

 Soon after sub mommy disappeared.